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  • Error404
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    • Mar 2007
    • 19789
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #136
    ASZ boxes are not as strong as the ARV 01A i'm afraid Rocco, it won't last long with a remapped S2 IMO. The S2 version of the 01A was strengthened to cope with the torque.
    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
    Indigo ABY coupé
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    • vertigone
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      • Nov 2009
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      • Country: France

      #137
      Hi friend !
      a friend of mine here will do the same change about boxes on 3B
      I'll keep you update
      91' S2 3B Pearl White

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      • Rocco
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        • Aug 2007
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        #138
        Originally posted by Error404
        ASZ boxes are not as strong as the ARV 01A i'm afraid Rocco, it won't last long with a remapped S2 IMO. The S2 version of the 01A was strengthened to cope with the torque.
        true?? the AUDI books does not said nothing about it,so i will try with it (crossed fingers )

        i have a friend using it and for the moment works perfect and it is much more fun and drivable than the 01A ARV , i tested it¡¡

        it is a very straigh fit and we will see.... if not, i think that it could be strengthened in some way to use these gear ratios in to the box.

        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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        • Rocco
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          • Aug 2007
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          #139
          Originally posted by vertigone
          Hi friend !
          a friend of mine here will do the same change about boxes on 3B
          I'll keep you update
          ok keep me posted about it with possible problems or something
          RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
          BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
          LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #140
            AFAIK it is the bearings that are the weak point so perhaps you can uprate them.
            Surely the first 5 gears of the much stronger 01E box are similar to the ASZ rations though?
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • Rocco
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              • Aug 2007
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              • Country: Spain

              #141
              Originally posted by Error404
              AFAIK it is the bearings that are the weak point so perhaps you can uprate them.
              Surely the first 5 gears of the much stronger 01E box are similar to the ASZ rations though?
              take a look













              these speeds are for my friends tire in 245/45/18

              hope you can understand them¡

              "salto de marcha" it is something like gear change at "xxx" rpm ok??

              i think that the ASZ gear ratios are far better for fun use than ARV´s and better than 01E cgr first 5 speeds

              in my friend´s car it works so niceeeeee , the car it is complete stock 0.8bar boost and whem you drive it it seems like it has 280 or 300hp

              we will see

              -Tomas-
              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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              • Error404
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                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #142
                there is not much difference between the Cq 01A and the first 5 gears of the 01E as I suspected
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • Rocco
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                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6393
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                  #143
                  Originally posted by Error404
                  there is not much difference between the Cq 01A and the first 5 gears of the 01E as I suspected
                  nope¡

                  but they seems better relationated


                  later 01E are stronger of course,but depends the use it receieved in the past...if not see what happend with Jonas R CGR box....

                  01A ASZ only it is different in the driveshafts and gear ratios than ARV´s

                  this is just the audi books said.

                  ARV´s driveshafts are stronger (wider) than the other coupe quattros. but i will use the ARV´s ones and it is a straight fit,without any mods all plug/play. after all, ASZ box it deserves a chance or not??

                  of course it is better to upgrade to 01E but this requires more parts,time,and money...

                  ASZ box it is lighter aniway but i would like the 6th gear for motorway use and better fuel economy

                  RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                  BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                  LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                  • Jonas_R
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 3781
                    • Country: Denmark

                    #144
                    So what are the plans at the moment Rocco? Can we see some pictures of the new engine etc?
                    Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                    A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                    Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                    • Rocco
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6393
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                      #145
                      Originally posted by Jonas_R
                      So what are the plans at the moment Rocco? Can we see some pictures of the new engine etc?
                      HEY Jonas how are you?? and you car??any news about your little injured boy??

                      my plans has turned 180º .......

                      now i have to forget any 3B engine upgrades or nothing about the stroker AAT block...because it will be easy and "cheap" make the "Sweeper" engine bay + transmission swap. it is a 800kms used engine...with a very high specs made and build for PK Motorsport..... this guy must be a master with our engines.

                      i will make pictures whem i receive it

                      and did you saw the 608hp and 660nm dyno results of his car with 98fuel and a "street" and reliable ECU map???

                      take a look
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                      RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                      BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                      LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                      • Jonas_R
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3781
                        • Country: Denmark

                        #146
                        That looks mental

                        So I guess that is why your selling all of your stuff.

                        My car is being repaired at the moment, I expect to have it back end of next week if all goes well.
                        Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                        A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

                        Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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                        • Rocco
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                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6393
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                          #147
                          Well......

                          yesterday i had fited my 01A ASZ gearbox.....

                          and i have to say that for the moment it is the best upgrade in the car with .the same as m front brakes¡¡


                          it is complete awesome¡¡ how it feels reving to 7000rpm boosting 1.7bar.....

                          my car it is now much more driveable and fun ¡¡¡

                          a worth mod for 3B owners who they dont mind to spend a little more fuel crusing at 130km/h

                          and with this gearbox, i think that the connecting rods will works better,talking about for dont bend rods

                          RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                          BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                          LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                          • CoCaine
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                            • May 2008
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                            #148
                            We will see how it's going to work @ drag racing this weekend
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                            • Rocco
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                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6393
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                              #149
                              if nothing happens tomorrow mourning i will go to the dyno with my RS2 turbo setup

                              i never did it

                              holding boost to 1.5bar / 6000rpm how many power should see?? with peak of boost 1.9bar at around 4000rpm i think ...a lot of torque inside true??

                              the bad point in my car it is the small 3B IC
                              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                              • javispa
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                                • Jul 2007
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                                #150
                                Originally posted by Rocco
                                if nothing happens tomorrow mourning i will go to the dyno with my RS2 turbo setup

                                i never did it

                                holding boost to 1.5bar / 6000rpm how many power should see?? with peak of boost 1.9bar at around 4000rpm i think ...a lot of torque inside true??

                                the bad point in my car it is the small 3B IC
                                Not for a long time, my friend, not for a long time .
                                I am glad that you solved your boost problem and I wish you goog luck for your dyno launch tomorow morning.
                                Cheers!
                                Audi Coupé S2 '92 -- VW Golf 2 GTI '91 (v2) -- Renault 4 TL '84 -- Audi 100 2,3E '92 (Dad's) -- Suzuki SV 650 S '08

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