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  • DJones
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2005
    • 2020
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #91
    Originally posted by URquattroGus
    And because it puts hairs on your chest!
    Lol, had them for years, its the colour there going that's getting more concerning...

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    • adam g
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      • Feb 2007
      • 445
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #92
      So did the #8 fix the issue or swing the power too far toward the other end of the rev range. Is the compressor side up to flowing enough at high revs.

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      • DJones
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        • Jun 2005
        • 2020
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #93
        Originally posted by adam g
        So did the #8 fix the issue or swing the power too far toward the other end of the rev range. Is the compressor side up to flowing enough at high revs.
        Yes it feels much better to the point i have turned the boost down now only run 1.8 bar it still feels very responsive i.e holding a steady speed in second and then booting it it will very quickly still loose traction from all four wheels.

        Will now only pull circa 1.5bar in 1st where as before it would get to 2+ no problem. And feels stronger at the top 4th gear now is immense and no surge..

        My manifold is only good for 450bhp and the compressor housing will do that easily (so Craig from Cr Turbo's tells me..) That said it is simple to replace the cover and fit a 76 wheel but he tells me that will introduce quite a lot of lag.

        So all told i think its spot on for my needs...

        Darren.

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        • adam g
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          • Feb 2007
          • 445
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #94
          Decisions decisions.

          Damo: I dont suppose you have a dyno plot with the std RS2 turbo so you can see the difference in the curves - assuming that the MD357 is only part that changed. 350bhp does sound a bit light as I thought the std turbo could make 360 with a good remap, Im sure I'll find the answer to that question somewhere on this forum.

          cheers,
          Adam

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          • DamoM
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            • Feb 2005
            • 352
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #95
            Originally posted by adam g
            Decisions decisions.

            Damo: I dont suppose you have a dyno plot with the std RS2 turbo so you can see the difference in the curves - assuming that the MD357 is only part that changed. 350bhp does sound a bit light as I thought the std turbo could make 360 with a good remap, Im sure I'll find the answer to that question somewhere on this forum.

            cheers,
            Adam
            The car has never had an RS2 turbo on it in the time i've owned it. It came with a BB turbo of unknown origins when I bought it and I got it mapped wiht a before and after dyno run:

            *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
            *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
            *1991 RR 20v quattro
            *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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            • DamoM
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              • Feb 2005
              • 352
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #96
              The never-ending chase!

              Well had the car remapped. My 660cc injectors are running at 90% of their duty cycle and so this is holding it back and I can only run 1.6 bar boost. Exhaust is restrictive (a 20+ year old Scorpion!) and the inlet filter is too small (they'd sent the wrong one and it cost 25 bhp compared to the plot without it fitted).

              Net result was 404bhp FWHP which was quite disappointing.

              I will post the dyno plot when I get a chance.

              Car went well though and the GTX3071 turbo seemed good if not fantastic.

              So new injectors, better exhaust and revised inlet setup = MORE MONEY!!!
              *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
              *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
              *1991 RR 20v quattro
              *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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              • DJones
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                • Jun 2005
                • 2020
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #97
                It always equals more money mate.... You probably want a 3" turbo back for what your looking for...

                Be interesting to see what the gtx can do when your sorted..

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                • AndyP
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 6049
                  • Country: England

                  #98
                  Originally posted by DamoM
                  Net result was 404bhp FWHP which was quite disappointing.
                  404whp has got to be 500 at the crank, at only 1.6bar and you're disappointed??

                  I'd be over the moon!!
                  sigpic
                  1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                  1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                  1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                  • DJones
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                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2020
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #99
                    Originally posted by AndyP
                    404whp has got to be 500 at the crank, at only 1.6bar and you're disappointed??

                    I'd be over the moon!!
                    Andy

                    Damo said FWHP, I.e. crank was 404..

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                    • AndyP
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6049
                      • Country: England

                      #100
                      FW as in flywheel? the yanks usually say FWHP means four wheel HP.
                      sigpic
                      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                      • jsws3
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 1174
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #101
                        I'm gutted your car is not where it needs to be to take full advantage of the gtx turbo .
                        When do you think your car will be ready for the remap ?

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                        • diesel des
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 3896

                          #102
                          Any boost and rpm graphs. Interested in how responsive this turbo is.

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                          • DamoM
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                            • Feb 2005
                            • 352
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #103
                            Originally posted by DJones
                            It always equals more money mate.... You probably want a 3" turbo back for what your looking for...

                            Be interesting to see what the gtx can do when your sorted..
                            You're right Darren. Thing is the outlet from the hotside is only 2.5", it goes to a 3" downpipe. Think I'm going to run a straight through bit of pipe on the dyno just to actually see what the level of restriction is.

                            I'm not going to stop though, have created such a beast and beasts need constant attention!
                            *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                            *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                            *1991 RR 20v quattro
                            *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                            • DamoM
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 352
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #104
                              Originally posted by DJones
                              Andy

                              Damo said FWHP, I.e. crank was 404..
                              Sorry. FWHP = flywheel horsepower for me. Surely four wheel horsepower would mean the same as wheel horsepower?
                              *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                              *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                              *1991 RR 20v quattro
                              *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                              • DamoM
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 352
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #105
                                Originally posted by jsws3
                                I'm gutted your car is not where it needs to be to take full advantage of the gtx turbo .
                                When do you think your car will be ready for the remap ?
                                Yeah it's a real blow. I think that the 1000cc injectors might already have been ordered! It won't be long!
                                *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                                *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                                *1991 RR 20v quattro
                                *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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