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  • nervas
    S2Forum Addict
    • Jun 2004
    • 357
    • Country: Lithuania

    #121
    its better to copy from WRC ... http://www.subaruwrcspares.com/5.html
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    • terrybullwon
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2006
      • 8782
      • Country: England

      #122
      Originally posted by nervas
      hi, not the best design of mcpherson control arms.. on braking you will have problems with outer spherical bearings, it can unscrew... If you want to test then put there 2x nuts, but it would be better to have there welded housing for round spherical bearing for safety.

      had similar design years ago.. it works with double wishbone, but not mcpherson
      Okay were try and see.

      Originally posted by andy10v
      Are zip ties not taking the weight saving to the extreme?

      Were you worried about the original diff mount on the subframe flexing? Are the wishbones "set" in the subframe or will you use spacers to adjust back and forward?

      You got a date for the suspension?
      Original diff mount must flex with 600hp thats for sure! This will not 100% and yes i have some one making me several sets to allow adjustment and some special EN36 hardend King pins with alittle extra length to bring back the roll center with the lowered chasis
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      • Jonnybravo
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Aug 2008
        • 2051
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #123
        Originally posted by nervas
        hi, not the best design of mcpherson control arms.. on braking you will have problems with outer spherical bearings, it can unscrew... If you want to test then put there 2x nuts, but it would be better to have there welded housing for round spherical bearing for safety.

        had similar design years ago.. it works with double wishbone, but not mcpherson
        More like this you mean :



        Where are you getting your joints from James ?

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        • terrybullwon
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2006
          • 8782
          • Country: England

          #124
          Bloody hell James enough nuts on there???

          I got a card off some guy from Autosport for Aurora bearings so gave him a call got a pretty good deal out of it in the end. But you still cringe when you know the price for each joint
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          • Jonnybravo
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Aug 2008
            • 2051
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #125
            Double adjusters mate, so adjustable in situ as per the works cars. I'm not using Aurora bearings, too pricey for me ! Andrew Gallagher ran McGill motorsport joints on his 800hp carbon focus and never broke or wore one out so thats where I did my shopping.

            Mine runs 14 joints per side so yes well aware of the cost of bloody rose joints LOL

            Looking great though mate, bet you can't wait to get it back on its wheels again

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            • terrybullwon
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2006
              • 8782
              • Country: England

              #126
              Originally posted by Jonnybravo
              Double adjusters mate, so adjustable in situ as per the works cars. I'm not using Aurora bearings, too pricey for me ! Andrew Gallagher ran McGill motorsport joints on his 800hp carbon focus and never broke or wore one out so thats where I did my shopping.

              Mine runs 14 joints per side so yes well aware of the cost of bloody rose joints LOL

              Looking great though mate, bet you can't wait to get it back on its wheels again
              Cheers James,

              Yeah itching is a understatement but i am pretty screwed with out the suspension going to Gatebil last weekend did not help much

              Thats good to know about the McGill bearings i need some more for a few other bits maybe i'll try them out.
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              • Rocco
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Aug 2007
                • 6393
                • Country: Spain

                #127
                can i have a ticket for droll in your car in 10 days??
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                • Jonnybravo
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2051
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #128
                  I bet lol, it will be worth the wait ( thats what I keep telling myself anyway lol )

                  As for McGill, I know their cheap which puts people off but we have all seen the punishment that Focus got !

                  I bet Gatebil was awesome, probably not quite as muddy as the weekend I had ha ha, hope you had a great time.

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                  • terrybullwon
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 8782
                    • Country: England

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Jonnybravo
                    I bet lol, it will be worth the wait ( thats what I keep telling myself anyway lol )

                    As for McGill, I know their cheap which puts people off but we have all seen the punishment that Focus got !

                    I bet Gatebil was awesome, probably not quite as muddy as the weekend I had ha ha, hope you had a great time.
                    Well it rain so ****ing hard on sunday it washed the time attack out

                    Yeah the focus is more than testament and it was hardly a budget build, add me to facebook i have a few Gatebil pictures there
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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #130
                      Originally posted by Rocco
                      can i have a ticket for droll in your car in 10 days??
                      Yeah sure its not alot to look at though
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                      • nervas
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 357
                        • Country: Lithuania

                        #131
                        Originally posted by Jonnybravo
                        More like this you mean :

                        those are ftom ford rear.. they have different sudpension there, also another longer comes as "traction bar"..
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                        • Jonnybravo
                          S2Forum Fiend
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2051
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #132
                          Originally posted by nervas
                          those are ftom ford rear.. they have different sudpension there, also another longer comes as "traction bar"..
                          They are actually custom front arms, not rears and I was only showing the spherical bearing setup as you mentioned.

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                          • nervas
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 357
                            • Country: Lithuania

                            #133
                            but wheel side spherical bearing is in housing that is welded. And they have made double adjusters:

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                            • Jonnybravo
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2051
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #134
                              The double adjusters come from dewitts. The arms were indeed fabricated.

                              A friend of mine owns a 98 wrc Subaru so I'll stick my head under it and have a look next time I'm over to see what you mean

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                              • quattro84
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Mar 2006
                                • 947
                                • Country: Netherlands

                                #135
                                He means that the bearing at the hub is fixed, cannot be rotated. Because of the crappy design of the McPh strut braking forces are being transferred by an opposed torque compared to braking direction. This torque will make your rose joint twist. That's why they use the double adjustable ones at the subframe side. Being a couple these can cancel out twisting forces because they offer dual opposed reaction forces.
                                Because the 'arm' is shorter on the bottom side the reactional force is bigger as well.

                                I would recommend to use dustcovers for these expensive Aurora's (used on the Works Evo WRC as well) to extend longevity. Will try to find the source for you guys.
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