VEMS and TurboSmart Solenoid

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  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #46
    Originally posted by A80Avant
    it is now done and checked. turbosmart solenoid can be used with vems succesfully.Ill post my settings later,but settings might differ from ecu to ecu. only use them as a reference/ starting point

    edit:
    pwm period: 16ms
    map target
    boost control reference position: 4/5
    target offset: 12
    off: 98kpa
    P:250
    I:5
    D:48
    PID integral limit: 125

    infjet channel 7 enabled

    Duty cycle:

    2000:55.3
    2500:65.1
    3000:70.1
    3500:72.4
    4000:74.1
    4500:74.9
    5000:74.9
    5500:78
    6000:78
    6500:78
    7000:78
    7500:78

    rpm/map based boost set to 290kpa from 3500rpm.

    small changes above.

    small decrease on high rpm boost is still noted on 2nd/3d gear pulls but it is down to turbo backpressure as this is something i get with all setups now. I believe that a stiffer spring could cure it,but TBH i dont mind. Next turbo will not have such issues

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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
      • 10873
      • Country: Greece

      #47
      just so that i dont forget,
      these settings are for the stock wastegate spring.If you are using the 1.9bar spring or other, then there may need to be some changes.I do have the 1.9bar spring,but never fitted it.Bram uses the 1.9bar spring so he may try it out as well.

      at least now we know that VEMS can use the solenoid without problems,and without having to buy the whole turbosmart boost controller.

      can anyone get a hold of the importer of MAC pneumatic valves in the UK? i have emailed them once and got no replies. Reason being that those solenoids are dead cheaper to get them from them directly and it wouldnt cost 70GBP for them!

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #48
        Update:

        whoever uses turbosmart solenoid, make sure you use teflon tape on the nips otherwise you will have a leak. I did that today and noticed that i had to alter the boost settings slightly because i was getting more boost than programmed on VEMS.(offset). Now everything seems to be in order again.

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        • A80Avant
          S2Forum Obsessed
          • Sep 2005
          • 10873
          • Country: Greece

          #49
          update:

          im in the process of locating the part number on the solenoid that would enable anyone to buy it directly from mac rather than turbosmart/aem etc which all use the same type of valves. Once i have the proper part number i will post it.

          there is a possibility that the watts may be different in which case the sensitivity of the solenoid may be affected(more sensitive). There shouldnt be any problems with VEMS,but i cannot say anything about the eboost though

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          • s2_bo
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Oct 2005
            • 6067
            • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

            #50
            Im up for that. Keep us posted!
            91 S2 coupé - RIP
            98 S8 - Luxury barge

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            • A80Avant
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Sep 2005
              • 10873
              • Country: Greece

              #51
              2 shops can provide the solenoid.

              1) USA: http://www.frightprops.com/FrightPro...ID=A-0013-0082 with a total cost of $42.45 (shipping is included and is $15.95)
              2) UK: sales@pneusol.co.uk distributor of mac valves in the UK with costs of 26GBP+9GBP for shipping within the uk(more expensive)

              i just placed the order for one from the US. the only difference i can find is the wattage on these solenoids, being 6.2 on the turbosmart one rather than 5.4 that are on the mac original ones,but i believe that it wont make a difference.

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              • GazzaG60
                S2Forum Freak
                • Mar 2007
                • 4133
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #52
                sounds good but ill stick with the eboost. i lkie to be able to change settings on the fly.

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                • s2_bo
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 6067
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                  #53
                  Great, looking forward to see how well they work!
                  91 S2 coupé - RIP
                  98 S8 - Luxury barge

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #54
                    I've yet to test mine on Motronic - should be plug and play with main advantage of higher reliability than the factory item.

                    I still want to test in dual-port topology as well but doubt it will be this side of chrimbo.
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                    • GazzaG60
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 4133
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      limitied thinking on it paul and dual should just work. you dont tell eboost its in a different config. its to do with the routing of the hoses to it.

                      should just work and hopefully stop creep a little.

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                      • A80Avant
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 10873
                        • Country: Greece

                        #56
                        it does in mine. that is how i use it now with no issues.
                        i wont use the new one,i bought it as a stock part. so far the turbosmart i have does the job

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                        • s2_bo
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 6067
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                          #57
                          When the new one arrives can you compare them and see if there is any other differences?

                          Also could you try it out to see if the lower voltage span makes a difference?



                          Thanks for being the guinea pig
                          91 S2 coupé - RIP
                          98 S8 - Luxury barge

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                          • A80Avant
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 10873
                            • Country: Greece

                            #58
                            sure i will do that

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                            • Jonas_R
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3781
                              • Country: Denmark

                              #59
                              I can then confirm that you can run dual port on motronic. My tuner tried this and it worked perfectly
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                              • s2_bo
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Oct 2005
                                • 6067
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: France

                                #60
                                Can you post anymore details on this? Did he have to tweak the mapping?
                                91 S2 coupé - RIP
                                98 S8 - Luxury barge

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