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  • S2central.net
    Retired OG Mod
    • Jul 2003
    • 16590
    • Country: Northern Ireland

    #46
    Further to some feedback - here's a revised version of the primer document - http://www.s2central.net/S2_Schemati...tic_Primer.pdf

    I elaborated further on track numbers and how they are linked... Also reverse engineered how the various multicoloured connectors in the auxiliary panel map to the wiring diagrams... That then discovered a little correction I need to make on which cruise control schematics are correct for the S2/RS2. But I digress...
    Paul Nugent
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    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #47
      Found a couple of OBD funnies across the yrs on ABY / ADU schematics - its IMMO related - explains why there is three ABY loom versions for LHD and another three for RHD. Will catch this in a revised version this week. Its minor stuff, but its only when you have an intensive study on this stuff that you spot the anomolies - ask me in a week and I'll have forgotten.
      Paul Nugent
      Webmaster http://S2central.net
      Administrator http://S2forum.com

      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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      • S2central.net
        Retired OG Mod
        • Jul 2003
        • 16590
        • Country: Northern Ireland

        #48
        New version available now - link is the same - http://www.s2central.net/S2_Schematics/ABY_Wiring.pdf

        Includes detailed ECU pinout, some info about the various incarnations of looms across ABY and ADU - LHD and RHD. Also explains the OBD connector oddness, and I have elaborated with pinouts on the other connectors in the fusebox and auxiliary panels.
        Paul Nugent
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        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

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        • Ruffiano
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2007
          • 1458
          • Home: Italy Current: United States

          #49
          I went through my loom last night labeling everything and getting it ready for the swap, this guide made it quick and easy. Paul, I'll forward you the ABY loom part number tonight.

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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #50
            I recommend you buzz it all out if you can... Boring PITA of a task, but much easier on a bench than when you have it in the car... Ball park its less than 100 wires so not too horrendous.
            Paul Nugent
            Webmaster http://S2central.net
            Administrator http://S2forum.com

            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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            • david
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Oct 2008
              • 1268
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              aby

              nice work mate,this is going to be very handy when i start on my project...........
              [SIGPIC][SIGPIC]/SIGPIC]92 3B pearl white=gone back home to Germany,probably in bits and pieces

              RS2 VOLCANO BLACK] soon to be broken to bits

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              • Ruffiano
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2007
                • 1458
                • Home: Italy Current: United States

                #52
                I couldn't find the part number on my harness, It no longer has the sticker. Sorry.


                Secondly I have a quick question, where does the power cable from the battery connect with the Fuse panel? Is it just in one location? I was thinking it is probably the same place as the L30?

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                • S2central.net
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 16590
                  • Country: Northern Ireland

                  #53
                  Yeah there are some mighty beefy connectors that attach to L30 terminals on fat red cables - they can only come from the battery.
                  Paul Nugent
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                  1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                  2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                  2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                  Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                  There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                  • bluequattro
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 2960
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    that s an awesome guide! You should do them for a living and sell them !
                    I ve now found the rpm signal wire for my stack unit.
                    Just don t know if it still exists in the wiring loom in the car-i didn t fit it remember.
                    Must be connected somewhere, when i give it revs the original dash display goes backwards ( negative revs, weird)
                    I m a teacher by the way, not a sparky, so this is all new to me!

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                    • Ruffiano
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 1458
                      • Home: Italy Current: United States

                      #55
                      I did some work on the wiring of my car ('90 CQ, 7A) last night, Removed the old engine harness and put my new ABY harness in. It went pretty smoothly, stuffing all the wires through a small inaccessible hole (not sure if it is more accessible on the RHD) was not enjoyable but it needed to be done. All of the fuse box connections were a direct plug in. There were a few other connections that were on the hold harness that I don't immediately see. For starters the trip computer uses a small yellow plug that runs in the main engine loom, I don't see where this is in the ABY version, Also and more importantly the HVAC T5H connection doesn't appear to exist, I'm wondering what it looked like on the 3B harness since I believe that my cars wiring will be more similar to that. Also under my dash I had to unplug a few small round 4 wire connectors from the old harness to get it out, however they don't have a new plug on the new harness.

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #56
                        The yellow plug on the cluster is linked to ECU for MPG info via one of the other plugs - don't have data in front of me. Maybe you are referring to another plug - this could be a 7A specific thing. Photo would be good.

                        Also the HVAC integration is thru some generic location on the auxiliary panel. Will need to look that up - again might be a funny on a US based 7A.

                        Been running ragged here at work today so will try to apply some brain power to this later today.

                        Meantime - please post photos of any plugs you refer to with at least some wire colours to help me trace things on schematics.
                        Paul Nugent
                        Webmaster http://S2central.net
                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #57
                          T5h on the ABY loom - the red 5-pin plug... Look at the wires from Auxiliary relay positions 3 and 4 - they should find what T5h plugs into. Depends what flavour of aircon you have though...
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • S2central.net
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 16590
                            • Country: Northern Ireland

                            #58
                            Looking at Bentley for USA 90/Coupe and cross checking to page 46 on my wiring guide...

                            T5h/1 (green/black on ECU side) would connect to Terminal 1/87a on AUX position 4 - this seems to be via a red 3-pin plug in the engine bay (T3d pin 1) provision in USA - black/grey wire.

                            T5h/2 (black/yellow) will have to connect to a new relay block in AUX position 14 for your afterrun pump controller

                            T5h/4 (blue/white) is the R pin from MFTS - this comes via T1h on the USA engine loom - a white 1-pin connector on right of engine bay. Connect T5h/4 to Pin 4/HLS of the AUX position 4 relay.

                            Thats as much as I can gleam from Bentley - see section 87-10 if you have that for manual a/c or 87-20 for funky old digital system - which might be different again
                            Paul Nugent
                            Webmaster http://S2central.net
                            Administrator http://S2forum.com

                            1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                            2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                            2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                            Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                            There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                            • S2central.net
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 16590
                              • Country: Northern Ireland

                              #59
                              Your OBD interface is indeed a 1-pin yellow plug in the Bentley for a 7A engine (T1c) - that needs to connect to ABY ECU pin 31 - maps to pin 3 on T5 at the auxiliary panel - see page 47 of my guide.
                              Paul Nugent
                              Webmaster http://S2central.net
                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                              • Ruffiano
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1458
                                • Home: Italy Current: United States

                                #60
                                Wow, you have an amazing understanding of these systems... When I get home this evening I'll take some pictures, I also want to send you a picture of my ECU, it is chipped but I have no idea what chip it is... Need to get some homefries!

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