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  • steverrquattro
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Oct 2006
    • 787
    • Country: England

    #46

    RPM Sensor?

    Testing a G4 is something like this: "Test the resistance between between pins 1 and 2 of the black connector end of the G4. (With the bump on the middle of connector up, the pins are, left to right, 1 ,2 and 3.) Between 1 and 2 you should have "approximately 1000 ohms".

    If NO = replace, If YES - test between pins 1 and 3 and then 2 and 3. Both should be infinite ohms, i.e. "open", If NO = replace. If the G4 is fubar'd the engine will not start. If the engine is running when the G4 fails, it will keep running, but never start again (until you replace the G4).
    Steve

    1990 RR 20V
    1982 SWB UR - RS2 Engine

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    • flat out 90
      S2Forum Addict
      • May 2017
      • 233
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #47
      Originally posted by simons2
      Am I right in assuming that the ecu has to see up to 19 rpm from the G28 before starting but once running uses other sensors to stay running? If so do you think bump starting might show the ecu way more than the required rpm hence tricking the ecu into thinking the engine is running via the other senors ?
      That’s what iv been working on but not sure how

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      • flat out 90
        S2Forum Addict
        • May 2017
        • 233
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        Originally posted by steverrquattro
        RPM Sensor?

        Testing a G4 is something like this: "Test the resistance between between pins 1 and 2 of the black connector end of the G4. (With the bump on the middle of connector up, the pins are, left to right, 1 ,2 and 3.) Between 1 and 2 you should have "approximately 1000 ohms".

        If NO = replace, If YES - test between pins 1 and 3 and then 2 and 3. Both should be infinite ohms, i.e. "open", If NO = replace. If the G4 is fubar'd the engine will not start. If the engine is running when the G4 fails, it will keep running, but never start again (until you replace the G4).
        Thanks for the info I’ll tray again I have tryed another on it but I’ll test it

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        • Henkjan
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Aug 2003
          • 1705
          • Country: Netherlands

          #49
          what's the voltage during starting?

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          • flat out 90
            S2Forum Addict
            • May 2017
            • 233
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            Originally posted by Henkjan
            what's the voltage during starting?
            10.9 vs

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            • flat out 90
              S2Forum Addict
              • May 2017
              • 233
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              Originally posted by steverrquattro
              RPM Sensor?

              Testing a G4 is something like this: "Test the resistance between between pins 1 and 2 of the black connector end of the G4. (With the bump on the middle of connector up, the pins are, left to right, 1 ,2 and 3.) Between 1 and 2 you should have "approximately 1000 ohms".

              If NO = replace, If YES - test between pins 1 and 3 and then 2 and 3. Both should be infinite ohms, i.e. "open", If NO = replace. If the G4 is fubar'd the engine will not start. If the engine is running when the G4 fails, it will keep running, but never start again (until you replace the G4).
              Checked all that with no luck done the test and everything

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              • flat out 90
                S2Forum Addict
                • May 2017
                • 233
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #52
                So another update I’m not sure if it should happen so I’m looking for someone to confirm this

                so with the ignition on a get 12.49 volts on pin 3 of the ecu.
                but when I crank the car I get 0.66 volts. Now looking at the diagrams this is the power to the ecu Is this correct. If someone can confirm it before I carry on with it please.

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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #53
                  Sounds wrong to me
                  This is probably why it starts when you bump it

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                  • flat out 90
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • May 2017
                    • 233
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #54
                    That’s what iv been think now just to find out why it’s doing it

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                    • Lago Blue
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 843
                      • Country: Canada

                      #55
                      Is it possible that a faulty alarm might only cut power to fuel and spark when you are trying to crank; and not when you are simply in run?

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                      • jeffstoo
                        S2Forum Fanatic
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 98
                        • Country: England

                        #56
                        How about bridging from +12v supply to ignition fed supply at ecu and see if she goes when you turn the key?

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                        • flat out 90
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • May 2017
                          • 233
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #57
                          Originally posted by jeffstoo
                          How about bridging from +12v supply to ignition fed supply at ecu and see if she goes when you turn the key?
                          So tryed that and no difference.

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                          • flat out 90
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • May 2017
                            • 233
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #58
                            So I know things get warm but the ecu is getting to warm I would say.

                            Can anyone one tell me what I should get out of pin50 on the ecu. It’s for the Speedo with the ignition on I get 9.52 volts but if I unplug the clocks I get 6.32volts. I’m not sure what I should be getting there that’s why I thought I would ask.

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                            • flat out 90
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • May 2017
                              • 233
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Lago Blue
                              Is it possible that a faulty alarm might only cut power to fuel and spark when you are trying to crank; and not when you are simply in run?
                              Do you mean a standard alarm or aftermarket one.

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                              • Lago Blue
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 843
                                • Country: Canada

                                #60
                                After-market, I didn't see what type yours was but (upon seeing jeffstoo's post), recalled a post about internal alarm fault:

                                https://www.s2forum.com/forum/techni...62#post1215362

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