When changing cambelt, may I suggest you also fit new crank pulley

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  • Martynf
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jul 2003
    • 1885
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    When changing cambelt, may I suggest you also fit new crank pulley

    For anyone having the cambelt changed soon, or in the future, may I suggest you get yourself a new crankshaft belt pulley. A few guys here can testify to the repair bill should the 'worse' happen and I escaped the 'bill' by the skin of my teeth...

    So to share some info and help anyone else suffering in the future, please also fit a new pully when changing the belt, It's a £20 part waiting to do £0000's of damage!

    After putting a lot of my car back together and running her up for the first time in 2 months, I backed her out of the garage and found the missing woodruff key from my crank pulley! check out the cracks..... please get a new one, make it a part of every cambelt change!
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    Martyn
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  • rotoryboy
    S2Forum Possessed
    • May 2004
    • 3281
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    Now you tell me. Order one for me then. You have my details.

    Mark
    Mark

    Race Clio RS197

    S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
    S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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    • Martynf
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Jul 2003
      • 1885
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I've put one in stock Mark!, I will get one to you.
      Martyn
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      • rotoryboy
        S2Forum Possessed
        • May 2004
        • 3281
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #4
        Cheers matey
        Mark

        Race Clio RS197

        S2 Coupe ABY (Green) - RIP
        S2 Coupe ABY (Blue) - Sold

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        • Mark Halligan
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Jul 2003
          • 2001
          • Country: England

          #5
          This was mine when I took it off, I wish someone would make some out of better quality metal, because I have little faith in the OEM part.

          Mark.
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          Mark - Modded

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          • SteveH
            Super Moderator
            • Jul 2003
            • 4460
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Found the same with my pulley! Lucky the key had nowhere to go.
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            91 Modded 3B
            14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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            • Martynf
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Jul 2003
              • 1885
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #7
              I am seeing a pattern here.... :-(

              Wonder WHY? maybe because its so damn hard to get 450nm on the bolt? so without the 'proper' torque they are getting loose, rocking in the crank groove and breaking them clean off?

              I had the luxury in the end of the proper tools to change the belt and even with the right Audi wrench it still took two guys to hang on it to get the right torque!! I chose to follow the ABY workshop manual setting of 200nm + 180 degrees which is ****** tight.
              Martyn
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              • zlobo
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jan 2004
                • 967
                • Country: Sweden

                #8
                i have had the same problem.. but my bolt was not tigthen enuhf.. this costed me a lot.
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                2010 1/4 Mile ET 11.45 110Km/h @ 1,5Bar 437Whp
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                • Fat Audi 80
                  Super Moderator
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10547
                  • Country: England

                  #9
                  Funny that. When Autopool did mine last week, they said they had found a cracked pulley and replaced it for me. I guess this could well have been the one!
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                  • Stick Insect
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 2338
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Martynf
                    I had the luxury in the end of the proper tools to change the belt and even with the right Audi wrench it still took two guys to hang on it to get the right torque!! I chose to follow the ABY workshop manual setting of 200nm + 180 degrees which is ****** tight.
                    I was told that bolts should be greased before assembly ( on BMC/British Leyland cars). Were you greased up?

                    If the bolt was tightened against the locked transmission ( the usual trick I would imagine) then the bolt is causing friction against the face of the pulley which in turn applies this to the woodruf key. The woodruf key is for location only the bolt should do the holding IMHO.

                    David

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                    • martinjs
                      S2Forum Possessed
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 3205
                      • Country: England

                      #11
                      Heres what mine was like, not the actual key but the pulley itself was cracked
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                      • mcandmar
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 5118
                        • Country: Ireland

                        #12
                        Mine was the same as Martinjs when i took it apart, infact it split in two when i removed the four pully bolts from it

                        I was without a car for a week waiting for a new part to arrive so i would advise people to buy one when doing the timing belt.

                        Originally posted by martinjs
                        Heres what mine was like, not the actual key but the pulley itself was cracked
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                        • SteveH
                          Super Moderator
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4460
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #13
                          Looks like a design fault to me. I wonder how many I5s have ended up in the scrappers as a result!?
                          91 Modded 3B
                          14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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                          • scouser_75
                            S2Forum Addict
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 306
                            • Country: United States

                            #14
                            Fat Audi 80,

                            How much did the Autopool charge you for your cambelt change???

                            I'm gonna get my one done soon (along with a 101 other things )

                            Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                            Funny that. When Autopool did mine last week, they said they had found a cracked pulley and replaced it for me. I guess this could well have been the one!

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                            • Jonas_R
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3780
                              • Country: Denmark

                              #15
                              Hehe very funny actualy or not

                              My mechanic was supposed to change my timing belt, and did not tighten the thing with the right torque. Guess what happend?.....

                              Well.... Lets say i have a renovated cylinder head on his account...
                              Guess he will use the right torque next time....

                              He used a compressor driven wrench, and that did not work...

                              Jonas R.
                              Sleeper S2 Avant +450

                              A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

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