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  • LHD_Kid
    S2Forum Possessed
    • May 2006
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    #151
    Strange thing to say... They ARE old. They are NOT as efficient as more modern engines.

    This is how life works - evolution...

    The same can be said for turbocharger technology too...

    Honda CBR 1100XX Blackbird Turbo....undergoing major changes.....
    S2 Coupe... bit easier off the line...
    '03 ZX12-R daily hack.... lots of nice bolt ons...

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    • Thuppu
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      • Sep 2010
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      #152
      Well, AAN block and crank handles 1000+ hp so that's a joke block? Non forged crank, ok, please don't share missinformation. Also some diesel blocks has the oil check valve.

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      • Tom_
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Oct 2007
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        • Country: Czech Republic

        #153
        I think Ecklund Racing using this old engine and has around 1500hp on stock cast iron block. Now i think they will be using billet aluminium block
        Audi Coupe Quattro 2.3 20V

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        • ADP
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          • Mar 2011
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          #154
          Eklund use a forged crank end reinforced block,but now the block is at two picesCrank also before blockNow the billet blok in progress So you are right the block can handle 1000 hp,but for short period of time,and on high rpm range where is not so dangerous for ckankcase! Which diesel bloks have this valve????I saw many of them,but no one have this valve in block!?Please lets be a honest,not to believe in rumorsAnd be a real for the lifeIm driving same car like you Thuppu, and i thing to put inside a VW R36 engine with twin turbo converson! My name is Atanas!

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          • AndyP
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            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #155
            Originally posted by Thuppu
            Well, AAN block and crank handles 1000+ hp so that's a joke block? Non forged crank, ok, please don't share missinformation. Also some diesel blocks has the oil check valve.
            I don't remember seeing one that doesn't have the check valve, AAT and AEL.
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            • ADP
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              • Mar 2011
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              #156
              YES, AndyP both blocks DO NOT have this valve.......,originaly valve is in cylinder head on diesel engines AAT and AEL

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              • Thuppu
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                • Sep 2010
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                #157
                Originally posted by ADP
                YES, AndyP both blocks DO NOT have this valve.......,originaly valve is in cylinder head on diesel engines AAT and AEL
                Sorry but you are partly wrong. I remember there was a thead here that showed a check valve in the diesel head, but I think it was only in early models. Most diesel engines has the valve in the block. My AEL block did have a separate spring and a steel ball as a valve.

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                • ADP
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                  #158
                  Ok never mind, Thuppu! My AAt block is from 1998 produced and dont have this valve,The 1996 AEL also dont have this valve,maybe the newest have..............,but till now i dont see it at all on diesel blocksIts on head, for sureness and the oil filter.

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                  • AndyP
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                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #159
                    Originally posted by ADP
                    YES, AndyP both blocks DO NOT have this valve.......,originaly valve is in cylinder head on diesel engines AAT and AEL
                    I must have stripped 20+ TDi blocks now, AAT, AEL and Volvo, and they ALL have the valve in. It's different to the one in the petrol block, but it's definitely there.

                    The petrol valve is bottom left in this picture and screws into the main bearing housing, the TDi valve is behind the oil pressure switch and is held in with the long spring.

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                    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                    • ADP
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                      #160
                      Andy P this valve i saw for the first time,olso the nut.This bloks which i saw dont have this valve at all,i think that the upper valve is from vovlo,correct?

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                      • ADP
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                        • Mar 2011
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                        #161
                        On audi engines this valve is in the cylinder head.

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                        • SteveH
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                          • Jul 2003
                          • 4460
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #162
                          Nope, in the block, behind the pressure sensor.
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                          • AndyP
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                            • Feb 2004
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                            #163
                            Originally posted by ADP
                            Andy P this valve i saw for the first time,olso the nut.This bloks which i saw dont have this valve at all,i think that the upper valve is from vovlo,correct?
                            They're all Audi parts, the Volvo D2525T is an AEL engine.
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                            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                            • Tom_
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 1301
                              • Country: Czech Republic

                              #164
                              I have AAT engine block and there is valve too as Thuppu and AndyP said, behind oil pressure switch.
                              Audi Coupe Quattro 2.3 20V

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                              • mushasho!
                                S2Forum Enthusiast
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 163
                                • Country: United States

                                #165
                                So in the end, with how difficult it is to source 2.5 diesel blocks here in North America and even harder to source 92.8mm cranks, the effort required to assemble all that would be better suited towards retrofitting an 07k block in our old chassis.
                                Gives us a chance to retrofit many old items too, like deleting viscous clutch fans, covert to vaccum brakes and electric steering while swapping engines.

                                Just my opinion...
                                _RubĂ­_

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