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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #16
    Originally posted by andy10v
    3B ecu does use the mfts, faulty mfts/plug can make the ecu limit boost.

    Ian

    You can get a new plug/pins/wire from the dealer for not too much money.
    Not for the coolant temperature reading it doesnt to which I was referring

    The coolant temp value you see in vagcom comes from the sensor in the head but he has changed this already

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    • ian4455
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Nov 2010
      • 787
      • Country: England

      #17
      To sum this up - over Fuelling is the result of a problem on my car. Engine is always ok from cold but as it warms up at some point it starts to splutter. Let it idle after it does this the boost gauge instead of reading -6 its at -2 with the extra fuel going in. I leave the car running at idle like this for a minute and it suddenly stops doing this.

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      • salad.dodger
        S2Forum Fanatic
        • May 2011
        • 83
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #18
        I know my 100 turbo MC2 engine is different but it does this on start up, lumpy with black smoke until rev'd to 3000 rpm

        I was told lamda probe could be at fault????

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        • ian4455
          S2Forum Maniac
          • Nov 2010
          • 787
          • Country: England

          #19
          Just done the blink code test, 2341 02 sensor exceeded... expect that if it was overfuelling.

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #20
            Have you tried clearing the Adaption tables in the ecu?

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            • UrS4boy
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Feb 2006
              • 11859
              • Country: Canada

              #21
              Originally posted by ian4455
              Just done the blink code test, 2341 02 sensor exceeded... expect that if it was overfuelling.
              That is the code that people get when they have a leak in the hoses between the MAF outlet and the throttle body. Have you checked for boost leaks and in particular the condition of the MAF to turbo hose. Those have been failing due to age, etc. more often recently. That would be the 3B equivalent of this AAN black rubber hose in the bottom right of this diagram:

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              • ian4455
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Nov 2010
                • 787
                • Country: England

                #22
                I'll check the hose tomorrow, how do you clear the adaption tables in the ECU ?

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                • newsh
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 16226
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ian4455
                  I'll check the hose tomorrow, how do you clear the adaption tables in the ECU ?
                  Pulll the "motor" fuses in the fuse box for a few minutes.

                  The low vacuum reading certainly points to a boost leak.

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                  • UrS4boy
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 11859
                    • Country: Canada

                    #24
                    Originally posted by newsh
                    Pulll the "motor" fuses in the fuse box for a few minutes.
                    Previously I suggested that according to Paul N's diagrams (pg.43/57), on the row with the No. 23 through 32 fuse holders, the No. 23, 26 and 30 holder positions are empty, with No. 24 = the ISV, WGFV and Evap Control fuse, No. 25 the O2 sensor fuse, No. 27 = ECU constant 12v, No. 28 = fuel injectors and MAF and No. 32 = coils (reference: Paul's wiring pdf, Pg. 40/57)

                    As a result, I think you mean Fuse 27 (under the Orange "Motor/Moteur" cover):

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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #25
                      Easiest to just pull the 2 out as a pair complete with the orange cover

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                      • UrS4boy
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 11859
                        • Country: Canada

                        #26
                        Originally posted by newsh
                        Easiest to just pull the 2 out as a pair complete with the orange cover
                        Agree. I just was pointing to fuse 27 in case Ian's fuse box was missing the orange "Motor/Moteur" cover.
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                        94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                        • Jonas_R
                          S2Forum Possessed
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3781
                          • Country: Denmark

                          #27
                          Have you tried changing the lambda probe?
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                          • ian4455
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 787
                            • Country: England

                            #28
                            Prior to upgraded my 3b the car was running fine, after fitting the RS2 turbo and running the car for the first time it leaked a considerable amount of oil from the hot side into the exhaust. Turbo's sorted now but wondering if all that oil has broken the Lambda sensor ??

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                            • 220bhp
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 2578
                              • Home: United Kingdom

                              #29
                              What chips are you running this car on,or who mapped it.

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                              • ian4455
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Nov 2010
                                • 787
                                • Country: England

                                #30
                                Using a fault code reader i get a 0537 fault code after it starts running lumpy.

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