Oil ways into ARP rods

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  • europeanme
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Oct 2005
    • 3817
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #31
    I will investigate this some more and if it's possible, get it done through work...
    its the not knowing the cross section of the rod to see if there is anything un-toward stopping this from getting done...

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    • europeanme
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Oct 2005
      • 3817
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      Originally posted by driftin jo
      No, the oil does not pass through the crank to the mains the oil comes from the mains from the main bearing oil feed in the block, the hole in the crank main journal passes oil through the crank to the hole in the big end journal to feed the big end bearing and then through the hole in your con rod to the little end (if you have a hole).
      so to an idiot, me, it is flowing away from the crank, to the ends and back to the sump
      /next zone needing lubrication...

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      • Error404
        Super Moderator
        • Mar 2007
        • 19789
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #33
        it is possible on the generic H-beam rods, I've seen it done on 1.8T 144mm rods
        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
        Indigo ABY coupé
        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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        • driftin jo
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Sep 2007
          • 2222
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          Originally posted by europeanme
          so to an idiot, me, it is flowing away from the crank, to the ends and back to the sump
          /next zone needing lubrication...
          not away from the crank through it.
          See pics.
          Attached Files

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #35
            These guys offer it as an option on their rods:

            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • Jamo
              Retired OG Mod
              • Mar 2004
              • 21750
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #36
              It's an option during production, I've never seen pre produced rods riffle drilled. Be interesting if you can find a company that does it though

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              • pasbogdan
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Sep 2009
                • 1160
                • Country: Romania

                #37
                I am not clear about 1 thing(i do not remember).Is the pin moving in the piston too or only in the rod(standard rod).

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #38
                  I know this is a massive over simplification but why cant you remove the cap, clamp the rod and just drill a hole right through?

                  I also agree audi would not have wasted money if it was not necessary, or at least strongly question why they put it there. However 100k on rods without it shows it will do 100k on that engine
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • andy10v
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 5996
                    • Country: Scotland

                    #39
                    Originally posted by pasbogdan
                    I am not clear about 1 thing(i do not remember).Is the pin moving in the piston too or only in the rod(standard rod).
                    It is held in the piston by clips so it can rotate.
                    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                    Sold ABY-stock

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                    • AndyP
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 6049
                      • Country: England

                      #40
                      I'm sure I know a company in Sheffield that will be able to do this. If somebody could confirm the size of the hole I'll take a rod in and see what sort of cost we'd be looking at
                      sigpic
                      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                      • europeanme
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3817
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #41
                        well have a look at a standard rod tomorrow and use audi's R & D and copy their sizes...

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #42
                          looks about 1mm or thereabouts.
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Tonks4x4
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3062
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #43
                            I wonder if they got rid of it on performance rods to lower the chances of a loss of oil pressure?

                            And i would imagine to drill the blank rods they would have to be micrometer perfect as it would make a difference to the balance I the rod.

                            Also the jet from the oil squirters will be a constant 4 to 5 bar pressure jet washing the underside of the piston, I am 100% sure that would be adequate enough.
                            Audi Nut!!!

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                            • pasbogdan
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 1160
                              • Country: Romania

                              #44
                              Originally posted by andy10v
                              It is held in the piston by clips so it can rotate.
                              So,with aftermarket rod pin is hold fixed in the rod(not needing oil) and rotating in the piston?

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                              • Error404
                                Super Moderator
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 19789
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #45
                                no the pin isn't press fitted into the rods, it is free to rotate
                                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                                Indigo ABY coupé
                                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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