Which rocker cover with TFSI coils?

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1

    Which rocker cover with TFSI coils?

    Currently ABY but 7A is tempting, although I'll have to rework the breather... Who has done what?
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss
  • Christophski
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Mar 2009
    • 3632
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    I have kept my ABY one and will be doing something coil cover wise at some point....

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    • quattro-nick
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2012
      • 1746
      • Country: Belgium

      #3
      aby or AAN is a perfect fit
      but now i drive without the coil cover for cooling
      the picture is from my car
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      • Colesy
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Feb 2009
        • 2980
        • Country: England

        #4
        I have 7a with the plug holes bored out, a 3b breather pipe to replace the through cover pipe, hole drilled for breather pipe. Cover was £50, machining worked out at £60. Harness from Alex/Error and new coils. Haven't got it running yet but won't be long. With the rubber boots trimmed down on the coils they sit down securely on the plugs and look pretty good.

        I can get some better pictures if you'd like?

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        • Rikki Kitto
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Feb 2010
          • 6276
          • Country: England

          #5
          I got this off fleabay but need to find some spacer so it doesn't sit on top of the coils although I don't think it matters
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          • Jonas_R
            S2Forum Possessed
            • Jan 2004
            • 3780
            • Country: Denmark

            #6
            Originally posted by quattro-nick
            aby or AAN is a perfect fit
            but now i drive without the coil cover for cooling
            the picture is from my car
            Was the cooling not sufficient with the holes you made?

            I was planning to do the same thing myself.
            Sleeper S2 Avant +450

            A6 Avant 2.7t Stage 3

            Audi S2 Coupe RS2'ed

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            • Henkjan
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Aug 2003
              • 1705
              • Country: Netherlands

              #7
              how about no cover but only Aaron's carbon eye-candy mounted so that there is ½" space left open?

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              • Laaf
                S2Forum Addict
                • Oct 2010
                • 275
                • Country: Finland

                #8
                Originally posted by Rusty
                Currently ABY but 7A is tempting, although I'll have to rework the breather... Who has done what?
                This is a 7A cover with plug holes bored out, don't remember the diameter though. A friend did it for me. Added a -AN10 outlet for the breather in the rear, upper side of the cover. I pulled the toothed gear of the camshaft to spare the breather from it splashing oil.

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                • UrS4boy
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 11859
                  • Country: Canada

                  #9
                  I'll give you my standard answer on this:

                  Putting a cover, any cover, over the 1.8t/2.0t/TFSI coilpacks will hasten their death due to heat build up.

                  Better letting them run wild and free:

                  (from my injector insert replacement post: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/266127.phtml)

                  RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                  94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                  • S2central.net
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 16590
                    • Country: Northern Ireland

                    #10
                    There are two things that contribute to early death of those transistorised coils IMHO -

                    1. excess heat generated by longer dwell time than required to run them up to target primary current
                    2. heat soak exaggerated by placement of the metal cover i.e no air flow

                    I am looking into this more and more (time permitting).
                    Paul Nugent
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                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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                    • UrS4boy
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 11859
                      • Country: Canada

                      #11
                      Originally posted by S2central.net
                      There are two things that contribute to early death of those transistorised coils IMHO - 1. excess heat generated by longer dwell time than required to run them up to target primary current 2. heat soak exaggerated by placement of the metal cover i.e no air flow).
                      The dwell time is an issue but typically only on a 20VT that is being tracked (high RPM for sustained periods). The 4 ms stock dwell time in that situation is too long; prj (dmitri) has already suggested 2 ms is enough for these newer generation coil packs. He modifies the chip sets accordingly (if he knows which coils are going to be used).
                      RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                      94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                      • S2central.net
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 16590
                        • Country: Northern Ireland

                        #12
                        Yeah yeah - but do u really think everyone who has fitted a TFSI upgrade has asked dmitri for a chip tweak ???
                        Paul Nugent
                        Webmaster http://S2central.net
                        Administrator http://S2forum.com

                        1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                        2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                        2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                        Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                        There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                        • S2central.net
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 16590
                          • Country: Northern Ireland

                          #13
                          Info I have is that dwell is mapped only against battery voltage on the 20VT - it's not like the dwell time is wrong only at high rpm but the coils need more thermal headroom at high load / rpm so that's where you exacerbate the heat issue caused by excess dwell.
                          Paul Nugent
                          Webmaster http://S2central.net
                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • UrS4boy
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11859
                            • Country: Canada

                            #14
                            Originally posted by S2central.net
                            Yeah yeah - but do u really think everyone who has fitted a TFSI upgrade has asked dmitri for a chip tweak ???
                            No. I didn't say that. However, *IF* dmitri knows that you are running TFSI coil packs when he sets up the upgraded chip set for you (think Stage 1, Stage 1+, Stage 3, etc) then he will adjust the dwell accordingly.
                            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                            • Rusty
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 18953
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Mine's stage 4.32.256.

                              Think I'll look in to modifying an ABY/AAN/ADU effort for now.
                              Cheers'en, AndyC
                              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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