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  • HMS-S6
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Jan 2010
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    #601
    One weird thing I noticed today is that the stock ecu under reads rpm by 100-150 rpm.

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    • twoqu
      S2Forum Possessed
      • Sep 2003
      • 3103

      #602
      How are you determining that?

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      • HMS-S6
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        • Jan 2010
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        #603
        On the mapped ECU the Rev counter on the dash and the VCDS readout match up pretty well. On the stock ecu it's 150rpm less on VCDS. The idle speed on the stock ecu is higher than the mapped.

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        • HMS-S6
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          • Jan 2010
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          #604
          Trying to borrow another stock ecu to see how it acts on that.
          May be struggling to get the car to the specialist now as I got pulled over at 102mph on Friday and the way my luck is I can see my ban being just at the wrong time!

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          • prj
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2010
            • 6308
            • Country: Estonia

            #605
            The ECU does not under-read, it is impossible.
            It's just your tacho acting up.
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            • HMS-S6
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              • Jan 2010
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              #606
              On one ecu but not the other? Did the same thing every time I swapped them without fail.

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              • HMS-S6
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                • Jan 2010
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                #607
                And on the stock ecu you can hear and see the car idling higher 1000rpm while the VCDS is reading 850. This does NOT happen on the mapped one.

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                • HMS-S6
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                  • Jan 2010
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                  #608
                  Still trying to determine what the load % should be in group 003

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                  • HMS-S6
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Jan 2010
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                    #609
                    At WOT the load readings are as follows at 3600rpm;

                    Mapped ecu (1.4 bar) group 000 is 184 and group 003 is 124%
                    Stock ecu group 000 is 151 and 111%

                    Anyone know if this is correct?

                    On both ecu the AFR was 13.6-14

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #610
                      Originally posted by HMS-S6
                      And on the stock ecu you can hear and see the car idling higher 1000rpm while the VCDS is reading 850. This does NOT happen on the mapped one.
                      Does not make it any more possible.
                      The ECU can NOT EVER under read. Your tacho is wrong / non-linear.

                      If it under reads even ONCE your engine will STALL immediately and the ECU will RESET.

                      Load looks ok - 180-190 for 1.4 bar on AAN.
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                      • HMS-S6
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        #611
                        Ok. I had a golf in t'other day and is the only other car I've looked at load on and that was 191%. Is 120% correct?

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                        • HMS-S6
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Jan 2010
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                          #612
                          The mapped ecu is the weirdest. Runs different AFR every time. Ran 13's for a day, then for 4 days switched to 12's and pulled perfectly. Following day dropped to 10's and was gutless. Reset it and the power loss was identical but AFR had reverted back to high 13's!

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                          • prj
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2010
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                            • Country: Estonia

                            #613
                            The 2.2T ECU does not have fuel trims on WOT. It runs solely off of the MAF sensor.
                            There is no "resetting" and removing the power from the ECU accomplishes absolutely nothing.

                            Maybe I should get my name changed to "Mythbusters"?
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                            • HMS-S6
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Jan 2010
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                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #614
                              It's no myth. I totally hear what you're saying but I've had this serveral times now. Is it possible that it is not acting on wot and trying to stay in lambda control?

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                              • newsh
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 16226
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #615
                                If your throttle cable was really slack and you're not actually getting to WOT?

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