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  • andyg plym
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2006
    • 4646
    • Country: England

    #31
    Absolute pig on cold tick over this morning, when warmed up more hesitant than normal, going to check isv and also all fuses.
    Could isv be a factor with the running as well as the usual idling issues ?

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    • GazzaG60
      S2Forum Freak
      • Mar 2007
      • 4133
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #32
      when on the stock n75 mine hesitated but not misfire. I had an old dodgy n75.

      maybe not yuour issue as you seem to have general running issues. is the water temp switch good.

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      • andyg plym
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2006
        • 4646
        • Country: England

        #33
        Is that the one on the back of the head ?
        Or we talking mfts ? Mine is unplugged at present as the connector is goosed

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        • GazzaG60
          S2Forum Freak
          • Mar 2007
          • 4133
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #34
          yep. back of head. only one on my aby iirc. bout 10 quid iirc

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          • UrS4boy
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Feb 2006
            • 11859
            • Country: Canada

            #35
            F76 Multifunction Temperature Switch (MFTS) Info

            Originally posted by andyg plym
            Is that the one on the back of the head ?
            Or we talking mfts ? Mine is unplugged at present as the connector is goosed
            Umm...On the ABY/ADU, the MFTS is connected to the ECU via pin 46 of the T55 ECU connector. Using this pin as a high temp alarm (> 119 C) - the ECU cuts off active boost control as a safety measure. I would be concerned that disconnecting the F76 MFTS might make the ECU think there is a temp problem, thus lowering the boost.

            F76 MFTS info: http://forums.quattroworld.com/s4s6/msgs/22584.phtml





            RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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            • macspring
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2005
              • 6371
              • Home: Ireland Current: Wallis & Futuna

              #36
              Andy, you being on the forum this long and reading all of the threads you should know better.

              I think you're expecting too much of the Colgate Express to perform faultless when you have not changed your fuel filter, and your MFTS is not connected.

              I agree it is a pig to do the fuel filter, but it was worth it on mine, ( another reason why I like my UrS6s ).

              You can still buy the brown plug for the end of the loom that plugs into the MFTS sensor from the dealer. Makes for a nice new firm connection at this electrical junction point.

              Also make sure you are not using Bosch plugs and maybe use NGK ?

              Looking forward to see what happens when you do the Filter and the MFTS.




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              • UrS4boy
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Feb 2006
                • 11859
                • Country: Canada

                #37
                Originally posted by macspring
                You can still buy the brown plug for the end of the loom that plugs into the MFTS sensor from the dealer. Makes for a nice new firm connection at this electrical junction point.
                Yup

                RS2'd 93 UrS4 5 spd sedan
                94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                • andyg plym
                  S2Forum Freak
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 4646
                  • Country: England

                  #38
                  [QUOTE=UrS4boy;824343]Umm...On the ABY/ADU, the MFTS is connected to the ECU via pin 46 of the T55 ECU connector. Using this pin as a high temp alarm (> 119 C) - the ECU cuts off active boost control as a safety measure. I would be concerned that disconnecting the F76 MFTS might make the ECU think there is a temp problem, thus lowering the boost

                  Read my mind Dave but when you read a previous thread it's easy to see confusion IMO

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                  • andyg plym
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 4646
                    • Country: England

                    #39
                    [QUOTE=macspring;824356]Andy, you being on the forum this long and reading all of the threads you should know better.

                    I think you're expecting too much of the Colgate Express to perform faultless when you have not changed your fuel filter, and your MFTS is not connected.

                    I agree it is a pig to do the fuel filter, but it was worth it on mine, ( another reason why I like my UrS6s ).

                    You can still buy the brown plug for the end of the loom that plugs into the MFTS sensor from the dealer. Makes for a nice new firm connection at this electrical junction point.

                    Also make sure you are not using Bosch plugs and maybe use NGK ?

                    Looking forward to see what happens when you do the Filter and the MFTS.




                    Mfts already in hand but used as I need the wiring too as mine has disintegrated !
                    I AM using Bosch not NGK !!

                    I've been on this forum 10 years now and have had 10 s2's, I STILL say every days a school day......yes they all generally have the same faults but little things like mfts, n75, knock sensors etc etc still can be hard to diagnose, I hate it when things intermittently work

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                    • andyg plym
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 4646
                      • Country: England

                      #40
                      Right one more thing to consider, I have climate control as standard but a while ago I swapped the head to one from a RHD URS4, could this affect things ?

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                      • HMS-S6
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 1164
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #41
                        Have you got anywhere with this? You have the power in the opposite conditions to mine.

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                        • andyg plym
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 4646
                          • Country: England

                          #42
                          Sort of, I keep getting the same code coming back 00537 lambda (vagcom) 2341 blink code .
                          Waiting for a new section of wire and a connector for the mfts but was looking the other night and thought I saw a split in the tee rubber pipe for the oil breather than connects to the n80.
                          Going to remove today and see if I can replace. If I gently wiggled it the idle went up and down so obviously affecting it

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                          • UrS4boy
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 11859
                            • Country: Canada

                            #43
                            Originally posted by andyg plym
                            ...but was looking the other night and thought I saw a split in the tee rubber pipe for the oil breather than connects to the n80. Going to remove today and see if I can replace. If I gently wiggled it the idle went up and down so obviously affecting it
                            I thought you did a boost leak test. That "tee" hose problem should have shown up then:



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                            94 UrS4 V8 6 spd manual avant

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                            • newsh
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 16226
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              I thought you did a boost leak test. That "tee" hose problem should have shown up then:
                              Only if you include the PCV system in the test, ie. leave it connected at the MAF hose. If disconnected and the MAF hose take off is blocked then the one-way-valve will close the pressure side of the Tee hose.

                              I leak there will give a lean condition as unmetered air will bypass the MAF.

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                              • andyg plym
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 4646
                                • Country: England

                                #45
                                Well today removed the tee and it was actually fine, going to wait for my connector for the mfts to turn up and put it back to how it should be.
                                I did pressure test it a wee while ago and there were no leaks apart from the intercooler which I had welded up. Need to pressure test again.
                                Having now replaced plugs,coil packs, sorted downpipe leak and replaced the temp switch at the back of the head I am getting closer.
                                If the mfts switch and pressure test show nowt I'm going to look at fpr or maybe maf.

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