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  • Kliminati456
    S2Forum Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 215
    • Country: United States

    #1

    V8 Torsen to CQ question

    I read through the sticky on Torsen V8 rear diff swap and im still unclear about one issue....

    Can I do this swap and maintain my stock CQ 4x108 hubs or must I swap to the S2 5x112?

    Its my understanding that one driveshaft flange from the Coupe Quattro can stay but the other must be swapped to the v8 drive shaft. So I guess my real question is will the v8 driveshaft fit to my CQ hubs?
    Justin
    1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
    1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
    1987 Audi Coupe GT
  • WabTheKing
    S2Forum Fiend
    • May 2004
    • 2567
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #2
    hub splines are the same from s2 to 7a

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #3
      I have done this mod. Cq20 diff flange is a smaller diameter than the V8. You MUST use both V8 diff flanges since the splines on the S2 / CQ ones don't engage far enough and strip easily.
      Unfortunately you cannot simply swap to use the larger S2 inner CV joints since the splines on the inner end of the driveshaft are different. You need to use both complete S2 coupe rear driveshafts - the outer CV joint is the same on both so they will bolt straight up to your 4x108 hubs.

      HTH
      Alex
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • Kliminati456
        S2Forum Addict
        • Mar 2010
        • 215
        • Country: United States

        #4
        Thanks guys Very helpful information

        so in order to successfully pull this off I will need...

        V8 Torsen diff
        CQ diff housing
        Both V8 diff flanges
        2 S2 Coupe rear driveshafts
        2 inner S2 cv joints
        new left and right V8 O ring/possibly new bearings
        80W140 synthetic diff oil

        Any thing else?
        Last edited by Kliminati456; 6 January 2011, 21:48. Reason: added ingredient
        Justin
        1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
        1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
        1987 Audi Coupe GT

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        • Pirvu Eugen
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Apr 2007
          • 1978
          • Country: Romania

          #5
          I have a complete diff with torsen in....but the postage will be the killer...

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          • Error404
            Super Moderator
            • Mar 2007
            • 19789
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #6
            Originally posted by Kliminati456
            Thanks guys Very helpful information

            so in order to successfully pull this off I will need...

            V8 Torsen diff
            CQ diff housing
            Both V8 diff flanges
            2 S2 Coupe rear driveshafts
            2 inner S2 cv joints
            new left and right V8 O ring/possibly new bearings
            80W140 synthetic diff oil

            Any thing else?
            IIRC thats it, just remember to check the backlash once you've fitted the torsen in the cq housing I'm assuming you will replace the diff mounts as a matter of course?
            New hub bolts are a must when you refit the driveshafts obviously

            Alex
            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
            Indigo ABY coupé
            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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            • Kliminati456
              S2Forum Addict
              • Mar 2010
              • 215
              • Country: United States

              #7
              Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
              I have a complete diff with torsen in....but the postage will be the killer...
              Yea most likely. Out of curiosity what would you deem a fair value for the diff? How much does it weigh complete? I have had several things shipped over seas but the weight of this thing would probably make it not worth it. I have a few prospective sellers in the US.
              Justin
              1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
              1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
              1987 Audi Coupe GT

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              • Error404
                Super Moderator
                • Mar 2007
                • 19789
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #8
                its about 25-30Kg IIRC
                Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                Indigo ABY coupé
                Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                • caterpillar
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2004
                  • 2480

                  #9
                  27kg !!! it cost 2400 nkr to denmark from norway.......!!!! under 20kg .. 400nkr

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                  • DamoM
                    S2Forum Addict
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 352
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Pirvu Eugen
                    I have a complete diff with torsen in....but the postage will be the killer...
                    What is the part number of the V8 diff?
                    *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                    *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                    *1991 RR 20v quattro
                    *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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                    • caterpillar
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2480

                      #11
                      komplete: 017 500 043 S green mark and letter marked; AXZ or AFV for the automatic transmision
                      and 017 500 043 T yellow mark and the same letters...for the mauell transmision

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                      • Wolfgang
                        S2Forum Addict
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 250
                        • Country: Germany

                        #12
                        hi,

                        does anybody know if there is a difference between the AXZ for automatic transmission and the axz for manual gearbox?

                        best regards,

                        Wolfgang
                        S2 Coupe ABY
                        S2 Sedan
                        S6 20V Avant
                        www.audis2.de

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                        • Kliminati456
                          S2Forum Addict
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 215
                          • Country: United States

                          #13
                          In the U.S. we only saw V8 with automatic transmission. I would think these would be a better candidate for the simple fact that they have most likely seen less abuse.
                          Justin
                          1990 Audi Coupe Quattro= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46309
                          1991 Audi 200 20VTQA= http://www.s2forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54410
                          1987 Audi Coupe GT

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #14
                            I have an auto TORsen in my coupe, the guts are the same AFAIK
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • DamoM
                              S2Forum Addict
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 352
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #15
                              Originally posted by caterpillar
                              komplete: 017 500 043 S green mark and letter marked; AXZ or AFV for the automatic transmision
                              and 017 500 043 T yellow mark and the same letters...for the mauell transmision

                              mmmmmm. I had one fitted into my S2 diff on my ur quattro (I am running 6 speed 01E) and have just checked the old V8 diff casing and it is code is AYV???
                              *1986 ur quattro,2.5 stroker
                              *1995 Nogaro Blue RS2,Md357
                              *1991 RR 20v quattro
                              *2000 Nogaro Blue RS4,RS6 turbos,tubulars,custom 3" downpipes,Miltek,FMIC,big injectors,RS6 big brakes,RNS-E satnav/TV,592bhp/600lbs

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