The big experiment - amateur 3B shenanigans

[Nj]

Thanks for all the info lads. It does make sense now on how to undo the driveshafts. The difficulty in actually getting them out of the diff and gearbox does concern me a bit though.

See the propshaft... how can it drop down if either end is in the diff and gearbox? I know it's hinged in the middle but surely not enough to get the ends out? I disconnected the centre mount but it only drops down a few degrees because the ends are in the diffs. should I be undoing the centre pivotal point?

I bought a crane/hoist so I should be OK for controlled lifting/supporting of the engine when it's coming out. I'll weigh up the odds of me wrecking the turbo versus the odds of me knowing how to put it back on again

Sal, I'll be going for your method of dropping the back and maybe for the front too. Certainly makes a lot of sense. I decided to leave the back until I have the engine out after the car pivoted on a point disturbingly far forward.

Hendo - another man with spanner welcome mate. i'll give you a shout.

No pics of the new shell just yet cos It was a tight squeeze getting it into the garage and I need to get the steering arms on if i'm going to roll it out and in again. I'll get a couple of shots when possible. Looks very much like the first car before I started pulling the poor buggr apart.

[s2driveruk]

haha. what did you buy mate?
I have to say with hand on heart that my missus (despite the odd gasket blowing) puts up with my crap a lot. she was even happy for me as I skipped out the door last night to take delivery of the 2nd broken S2. Or happy to see the back of me. one of the two.

err yup likewise mate, i found a gem who for the most part doesnt mind me throwing money at a 15yr old metal box

As for the order, umm more a case of what didnt' i buy

1 x front pass side wheel arch liner 895 821 171A @ £14.34+vat
1 x pair of s/s rear brake lines £26.00+vat for the pair
1 set of the coupe door rubber trims £74.00+vat
1 x pair of front metal drop links 8A0 407 465C @ £24.84+vat each
1 x 3 pin temp sensor (MFTS) 034 919 369C @ £35.00+vat
1 x oil pressure sender (the larger one of the two) 035 919 561 @ £46.72+vat this is the bigger 'can' type one on the side of the block.
1 x breather system regulator valve 034 129 101B this is the round plastic one at the side of the block @ £7.61+vat
3 x oil filters 06A 115 561B @ £3.25+vat
driveshaft to diff flange bolts (I think N90668201 can u confirm?) enough for both sides (12?) correct !! they are 60p +vat each
2 x gaskets between driveshaft cv (inner) and diff flanges (i think 8D0407309A) yup! @ £1.98+vat
4 x washer N0115278 @ .22p each +vat
nuts bolts and washers for attaching hub to strut (fronts and rears)
Fronts
N 906 244 01 bolts x4 @ 64p +vat each
N 021 2253 nuts @ 44p +vat each
Rears
N 906 244 01 bolts @ 64p +vat each
N 021 2253 nuts @ 44p +vat each
proshaft gaskets 8D0 407 309 @ £1.98+vat x2
prop to g/box & rear diff bolts N 019 9261 @ 40p +vat each x12
4 x rear wishbone bushes (i think 8A0 407181)
4 x blue top mounts
The other sensor on the water rail (not the MFTS) one but the small 2 prong jobbie
1 x new oil filler cap
t shaped power steering return line for a 3B too: 893 422 891T @ £66.55+vat

[Fat Audi 80]

err yup likewise mate, i found a gem who for the most part doesnt mind me throwing money at a 15yr old metal box

As for the order, umm more a case of what didnt' i buy

1 x front pass side wheel arch liner 895 821 171A @ £14.34+vat

If they are that cheap, I am going for a couple, mine are stone chipped to hell etc!

Hijack over.

Cheers,

Steve.

[Nj]

sweet baby jebus! haha. that's some shopping list. i'm trying to keep my purchases spaced apart so as not to draw too much attention [casual whistle]

[sal_s2]

Noel, if all the prop bolts are out, hit the ends with a hammer to free them up, theyre just stuck in place, it should drop down with diff and box still in place.

[Nj]

cheers sal. i bow to your disassembling wisdom.

[Nj]

fackin 'ell. those bolts can be a buggr eh?

Got down stupidly early the last couple of mornings for a bit.

steering arms came off ok, although they're awkward with the engine still in (wanted to get them onto the other shell along with the steering wheel so i can move it in an out of the garage).
Got the front struts off. serious work on the bolts holding the struts to the erm.. wheel/hub/things. one side came off ok but the other side I could only loosen the nuts 80% of the way and then had to get the old reciprocal saw out to cut them off. Any top tips for taking off the nuts if the last inch seems to be bereft of any thread?

actually that same difficult side was a ****** to get the wheel speed sensor off. almost had to chew it off.

[Knight Rider S4]

Speed sensor?.........ABS sensor on the stub axle?.....to safe yourself the bother with that follow the wire into the inner wing and you will see plug connector and just take off there and slip through inner wing and easier for installing onto the new shell as well

I must come down for a day looks so much fun ..when are you intending taking the engine/gearbox out?

Cheers

Steve

[Acidburn]

Your learning so much about how to work on these cars, tbh honest if someone who has done this was there it would be good for speeding up the process but you'd never learn how to do half of all this just watching, I always enjoy doing stuff like this especially if it would be something on this scale. Just wish I had the space to do it.

[Nj]

Speed sensor?.........ABS sensor on the stub axle?.....to safe yourself the bother with that follow the wire into the inner wing and you will see plug connector and just take off there and slip through inner wing and easier for installing onto the new shell as well

I must come down for a day looks so much fun ..when are you intending taking the engine/gearbox out?

Cheers

Steve

erm.. aye, that's the chap. too late though. I hoofed the pair out. 2nd one was quite easy. oops. I'm not putting them on the new shell though. they're going down to sal with the other bits that were part of the deal.

Funny you should mention coming down. I'm intending on taking the engine & gearbox very soon, then carefully moving any bits of wiring to the new shell (few bits were burnt in an engine fire). I'll take the gearbox off (going to sal) and i'll be ready to get the engine and bits into the new car.
Which brings me nicely to the suggestion of a garage meet (roughly translates as a day at my lockup with a load of burgers/sandwiches and drink courtesy of my missus)
Would you be up for that? I'll work out the date in a second.

[Nj]

Your learning so much about how to work on these cars, tbh honest if someone who has done this was there it would be good for speeding up the process but you'd never learn how to do half of all this just watching, I always enjoy doing stuff like this especially if it would be something on this scale. Just wish I had the space to do it.

absolutely mate. it takes a bit longer, which does lead to more strain with the wife, but i'm learning so much. Rob was great when he was down but I do have a fear that I will be lost without him putting those bits back in that he took off. (that's Rob roped into the garage meet for sure)

regarding space - wish I had some. hence me having 2 council lockups 200 yards apart.

[Nj]

Right - who's up for one of those Garage meets that I see so many posts about?
Glasgow, Sat 29th September. If there's any chance at all of a day without rain i'll drag a BBQ down and the missus will supply all who appear with as much cow as you can handle. and drinks. If you're not in front of a wheel on the way home i'll also supply you with beer... although possibly after the engine is in. I don't fancy any of those moments when I hear someone go "oh buggr. Was that expensive?"

It's a bit far away but i'm away from 12th to 26th of September and have a work think that ruins the weekend at the end of the month.

Anybody up for it?

[Acidburn]

Hmmm...............goes off to work out airflights to glasgow

[BRY]

I'll be passing through Glasgow at the end of this week, do you want a hand?

[Flat on my back]

Hmmm...............goes off to work out airflights to glasgow

Cheap from 'Brisol' last time i went norf!