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  • 4WheelDrifter
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2004
    • 5773
    • Country: Devon

    #586
    The pulley just exaggerates any wobble on the crank, making it easier to spot.
    SS

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #587
      Thanks for the tip mate, I'll bolt it up tomorrow and have a look
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • mcandmar
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Apr 2004
        • 5118
        • Country: Ireland

        #588
        Originally posted by 4WheelDrifter
        Sgt Balancer refused to balance it, so I had use another crank.
        Was that Philip in BDB? He insisted i measured mine before shipping for that very reason
        91CQ20v - Gone to a new home
        93UR-S4 - The Magic Carpet
        94S2Bus - The Emerald Express

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #589
          Originally posted by Error404

          Andy yes I have found not all shells are equal, so you have a bit of variation to play with.
          Trial and error with plastiguage? And then swap tight-loose?
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • G60Rallye
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Dec 2006
            • 1321
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #590
            Good to see you going into such detail on the build!

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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #591
              Cheers Hamish

              Originally posted by andy10v
              Trial and error with plastiguage? And then swap tight-loose?
              Fit the caps and torque them, then measure the bearing tunnel with an inside micrometer or a telescoping gauge. Then measure the journal. The difference is going to be the bearing thickness plus the oil clearance. Then measure the thickness of all the shells and match them up as closely as you can to the cap/journal requirements. Then you can test fit the bearings in the tunnel and measure again the inside diameters to check. You can then use plastigage as a final stage during test fitting to check your work but it is really not designed as a measuring tool.
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • andy10v
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2009
                • 5996
                • Country: Scotland

                #592
                Originally posted by Error404


                Fit the caps and torque them, then measure the bearing tunnel with an inside micrometer or a telescoping gauge. Then measure the journal. The difference is going to be the bearing thickness plus the oil clearance. Then measure the thickness of all the shells and match them up as closely as you can to the cap/journal requirements. Then you can test fit the bearings in the tunnel and measure again the inside diameters to check. You can then use plastigage as a final stage during test fitting to check your work but it is really not designed as a measuring tool.
                Great explanation, thanks!
                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                Sold ABY-stock

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                • JariP
                  S2Forum Enthusiast
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 192
                  • Country: Finland

                  #593
                  Originally posted by Error404

                  I measured the pistons and weighed them, matching them up with their respective rods. The pistons are within 0.012mm of each other so I will get the block bored to suit the largest piston - better to have a tad too much clearance than not enough. Worth noting that they averaged around 81.94 so just building it going by the box spec would have meant some of them were only running 0.055mm bore clearance - bad news! Always check!
                  Are you sure the 0.012mm difference is in the pistons themself or is it just the difference in skirt coatings? I think there's a note in some Wossner prochure that says the pistons are measured without the skirt coating. And measuring with coating gives you false readings.

                  Have you measured the actual cr those pistons give? Those look like the 8.0 cr pistons?

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                  • AndyP
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #594
                    Originally posted by JariP
                    Have you measured the actual cr those pistons give? Those look like the 8.0 cr pistons?
                    I was about to ask the same, the dish look very deep for a stock piston?
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                    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #595
                      Originally posted by JariP
                      Are you sure the 0.012mm difference is in the pistons themself or is it just the difference in skirt coatings? I think there's a note in some Wossner prochure that says the pistons are measured without the skirt coating. And measuring with coating gives you false readings.

                      Have you measured the actual cr those pistons give? Those look like the 8.0 cr pistons?
                      That is a good point, there was no information in with the pistons, so I will check with Wossner. The only info I have was what was on the box sticker. They are the 8.0:1 pistons
                      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                      Indigo ABY coupé
                      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #596
                        Big turbo?
                        sigpic
                        1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                        1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #597
                          not in the foreseeable future
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Pat D
                            S2Forum Maniac
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 748
                            • Country: Australia

                            #598
                            Originally posted by Error404
                            not in the foreseeable future


                            ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                            B5 1.8T quattro

                            B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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                            • Error404
                              Super Moderator
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 19789
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #599
                              Jesus, that'll give me nightmares
                              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                              Indigo ABY coupé
                              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                              • Pat D
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 748
                                • Country: Australia

                                #600
                                What type of coils will you be going with Alex?
                                ABY S2 stroker (work in progress)

                                B5 1.8T quattro

                                B4 2.3 (decommissioned)

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