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  • diesel des
    S2Forum Possessed
    • Feb 2004
    • 3896

    #241
    Have a chat to one of the plant guys. Tell them your looking for a vacuum indicator that pops up to show blocked air filters. Or just fit a vacum gauge to the compressor inlet.

    Delta p or pressure differential really needs a special dual port gauge. It measures pressure difference across a system eg intercooler on one gauge, so you don't need to look at them both. Will see what I can dig out..

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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #242
      do the easy part first and check the filter. Simply remove it (beware that nothing goes in)
      Go Holset or Go RS4

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      • URquattroGus
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Aug 2007
        • 547
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #243
        Havent done a grill test because I didnt have one and worried about sucking something in.

        Have changed the air filter though, to Apexi part no 500-022, also put some more heatshielding on whilst there.

        Have not driven it yet, biut surely it's got to be better, if not least for the filtration aspects too.









        Angus

        (1984 ur quattro)

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        • Bram
          S2Forum Fiend
          • Aug 2006
          • 2582
          • Country: Netherlands

          #244
          looks good Agnus. Hope the filter is good enough flowing

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          • Billman
            S2Forum Freak
            • Nov 2004
            • 4129

            #245
            nice, now go out and make a log
            Go Holset or Go RS4

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            • URquattroGus
              S2Forum Maniac
              • Aug 2007
              • 547
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #246
              Not that much progrees at the moment. I'm sorting out a couple of small things like new door seals before the 30-130mph day at RAF Marham.


              I actually rung and emailed Pro Alloy about coming up with some new intercoolers.

              They were helpful enough the first time on the phone and I emailed some pictures.

              I left it a few dayus and then phoned up to chase up. That was two weeks ago and I have not heard anything.

              Dissapointing really as I was poetntially prepared to spend some presumably quite serious money on some custom coolers.



              Wastegate wise, How do I check i don't have creep or some other problem?

              I can take the wastegate off, but what scares me is taking it apart or adjusting it as it has been mapped and the spring pre load was adjsuted down for boost control.

              Intersetingly they used the origional spring and not the 1.9 Bar one I thought they would use.

              Pete Berry fitted new diapragms etc when the engine was built.

              Maybe I should order an aftermarket or another wastegate, but surely this means having it mapped yet again!?
              Angus

              (1984 ur quattro)

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              • Billman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2004
                • 4129

                #247
                Make a log and see how it runs! maybe it is solved
                Go Holset or Go RS4

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                • URquattroGus
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 547
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #248
                  When you say make a log, data log pressure drop etc?

                  It drives just the same with this new air filter. Maybe a bit better up top end, but that is probably my imagination.

                  I think there is a problem somewhere else (see above)
                  Angus

                  (1984 ur quattro)

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                  • Billman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4129

                    #249
                    With log I mean to see at what RPM does the turbo spool now. I thought you didn't run the car with the new filter.
                    Go Holset or Go RS4

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                    • URquattroGus
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 547
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #250
                      have been looking at this:

                      http://www.efiexpress.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=56{7}51

                      Maybe I have some guide wear in the valve I have now?
                      Angus

                      (1984 ur quattro)

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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #251
                        I've got a spare WG if you want to try it.

                        S2 Coupe 3B Project


                        Ur quattro restoration

                        S2 Avant

                        Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                        • URquattroGus
                          S2Forum Maniac
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 547
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #252
                          Originally posted by newsh
                          I've got a spare WG if you want to try it.
                          Thanks, my only concern is whether I can replace the wastegate easily, maybe I could count the threads on the existing one?

                          It's been mapped with that gate, so I would worry about over boosting etc.

                          Does anyone know if there is anyway around this or do I need to get it mapped for the 3rd time!?
                          Angus

                          (1984 ur quattro)

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #253
                            Leave the bolt and the top chamber as is. In the rs2 in stock the bolt is at approx. 11mm measured from the top of the cap. Measure from the top and leave it the same. 0.5mm more or less will not do so much of a difference.
                            Go Holset or Go RS4

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                            • DJones
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 2020
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #254
                              Originally posted by Billman
                              Leave the bolt and the top chamber as is. In the rs2 in stock the bolt is at approx. 11mm measured from the top of the cap. Measure from the top and leave it the same. 0.5mm more or less will not do so much of a difference.
                              Set it visually as close as you can, do a 4th gear pull (before you take it apart) and record what boost is reached on your boost gauge, and do the same with your new cap/waste-gate and adjust the screw until you get the same reading.

                              Darren.
                              Last edited by DJones; 2 March 2012, 20:36.

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                              • 20Vcqdriver
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 829
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #255
                                Originally posted by URquattroGus
                                Not that much progrees at the moment. I'm sorting out a couple of small things like new door seals before the 30-130mph day at RAF Marham.


                                I actually rung and emailed Pro Alloy about coming up with some new intercoolers.

                                They were helpful enough the first time on the phone and I emailed some pictures.

                                I left it a few dayus and then phoned up to chase up. That was two weeks ago and I have not heard anything.

                                Dissapointing really as I was poetntially prepared to spend some presumably quite serious money on some custom coolers.

                                Wastegate wise, How do I check i don't have creep or some other problem?

                                I can take the wastegate off, but what scares me is taking it apart or adjusting it as it has been mapped and the spring pre load was adjsuted down for boost control.

                                Intersetingly they used the origional spring and not the 1.9 Bar one I thought they would use.

                                Pete Berry fitted new diapragms etc when the engine was built.

                                Maybe I should order an aftermarket or another wastegate, but surely this means having it mapped yet again!?
                                Filter cover looks good and not a million miles from mine though it looks on the small side. I am using a K&N RX2820 rated upto 600bhp so be plenty of spare capacity
                                Have you thought of using a water to air charge cooler. works really well on mine and is also rated upto 600bhp and keep pipework length short too.
                                1986 Coupe q - 2281cc 3B, chargecooler, 2.75" exh & downpipe, ported head, water injection, CGR box, modified MD357 turbo, 440cc injectors, high power coil.
                                2004 A4 2.5TDi convertible, re-mapped to 180bhp
                                2011 A5 sportback 3TDi-Backbox delete, remap

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