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  • newsh
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Aug 2003
    • 16226
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #1006
    What EM?

    S2 Coupe 3B Project


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    • andy10v
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2009
      • 5996
      • Country: Scotland

      #1007
      Originally posted by newsh
      What EM?
      RS2 style one I got from quattro nick is already fitted



      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
      Sold ABY-stock

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      • newsh
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Aug 2003
        • 16226
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #1008

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #1009
          Originally posted by andy10v
          Current plan is

          ABY ecu conversion with coils
          check everything works

          Fit wagner intake manifold
          remove gearbox
          remove downpipe
          fit new turbo
          fit clutch
          refit gearbox
          make new downpipe
          fit exhaust
          fit pressure side maf
          fit eboost

          check car runs on low boost

          drive to Automark, fit 440 injectors

          Live map

          Any suggestions/flaws in my cunning plan?
          Also have an AAN valve cover coming

          I presume I can continue to use the 7a fpr as it is 4 bar same as ABY?
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • newsh
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Aug 2003
            • 16226
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #1010
            Yep, although I switched to an ABY fuel rail while I was at it

            S2 Coupe 3B Project


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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #1011
              Any reason? I guess fuel pressure regulator is more available for ABY clip in?
              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
              Sold ABY-stock

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              • K Simmonds
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Dec 2007
                • 7627
                • Country: Wales

                #1012
                That all sounds like a good plan, I can see myself doing the same within 12 months.

                Are 440's going to be enough, do you know what Albert uses?
                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                1994 MTM RS2.
                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                2000 B5 TQS.

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #1013
                  Just for fun or for more reliable ignition? ABY has better vag com stuff as well.

                  Hopefully, Mark said they would be fine, said they flow more fuel than some other higher rated ones.

                  Albert

                  Originally posted by Albert
                  It is not good to run over 80% duty cycle on injectors. Get 550 cc @ 3 bar to be on safe side. You can boost the press to 4 bar if you would need more. Use Bosh 040 fuel pump form old Audi k jetronic to pump the fuel.

                  I'm runing my K26 on the race track ... it is responsive look at the videos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClx...gynbMJGPOVvT4w

                  I can make a bet that it is more responsive than the RS2 turbo. This is why I did not get it my self. It has much older compressor wheel in technology aspect.
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #1014
                    Originally posted by andy10v
                    Any reason? I guess fuel pressure regulator is more available for ABY clip in?

                    Fuel lines are a bit tidier and the rail is stainless
                    You have to bend things a bit to miss the dizzy though..

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                    • K Simmonds
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 7627
                      • Country: Wales

                      #1015
                      Safer ignition mainly, which I would want with one of Alberts turbos plus Dmitri will still map it when he's over here. If I stick with RS2 spec the dissy stays for the foreseeable future, I'm not going to change anything until I've done a good few miles with the new clutch fitted which will be happening soon. I should have a new OE Sachs release bearing on Monday, they can't get the SRE one any longer, it was only £18 but is the correct one so should be OK.
                      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                      1994 MTM RS2.
                      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                      2000 B5 TQS.

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                      • martinws
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 917
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #1016
                        I have an ABY rail if ya want it Andy?

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                        • newsh
                          S2Forum Obsessed
                          • Aug 2003
                          • 16226
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #1017
                          Might as well put these here, I think this is all you need apart from some cushions, a good head torch, pin extractor, some wire and a few connectors (2 x 4 pin and 2 x 3 pin male Junior timer)

                          Wiring of the 4 connectors for the coilpack loom

                          The 2 x 3 pin connectors are easy, they are the +12v supplies for the coils so all the pins are the same. (I did all three on both so they're interchangeable )

                          The 4 pin connector with all 4 pins populated as follows:
                          Pin 1 - Cylinder 3 coil trigger
                          Pin 2 - ECU Earth
                          Pin 3 - Cylinder 2 coil trigger
                          Pin 4 - Cylinder 1 coil trigger

                          The 4 pin connector with only 3 pins populated as follow:
                          Pin 2 - ECU Earth
                          Pin 3 - Cylinder 5 coil trigger
                          Pin 4 - Cylinder 4 coil trigger
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                          S2 Coupe 3B Project


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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #1018
                            Originally posted by martinws
                            I have an ABY rail if ya want it Andy?
                            That would be great, even just to mock up and see

                            When you free and I will see if we can vag com your car as well?
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • andy10v
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5996
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #1019
                              Originally posted by newsh
                              Might as well put these here, I think this is all you need apart from some cushions, a good head torch, pin extractor, some wire and a few connectors (2 x 4 pin and 2 x 3 pin male Junior timer)

                              Wiring of the 4 connectors for the coilpack loom

                              The 2 x 3 pin connectors are easy, they are the +12v supplies for the coils so all the pins are the same. (I did all three on both so they're interchangeable )

                              The 4 pin connector with all 4 pins populated as follows:
                              Pin 1 - Cylinder 3 coil trigger
                              Pin 2 - ECU Earth
                              Pin 3 - Cylinder 2 coil trigger
                              Pin 4 - Cylinder 1 coil trigger

                              The 4 pin connector with only 3 pins populated as follow:
                              Pin 2 - ECU Earth
                              Pin 3 - Cylinder 5 coil trigger
                              Pin 4 - Cylinder 4 coil trigger
                              Brilliant, thanks John

                              Do you have any recommendations on pin extractors? (I have just used ground down things in the past)

                              How are the ecu pins numbered? EG left to right as you face the plug?

                              Alex is doing this for me

                              Originally posted by Error404


                              Make a bespoke coil harness that plugs straight into the coil connector on your 3B engine loom for +12v and earth. The coil trigger signal pin will be redundant.
                              Use a 2 and 3 pin connector to connect to a small sub-harness that runs back to the ECU with your 5 coil trigger outputs you need to add to the ECU connector. That way you can unplug and remove the actual coil harness if necessary which will make life easier in future, plus it will make the install easier.
                              Run it through the bulkhead using one of the blank grommets under where the battery tray used to be, I can install the actual grommet on the sub-harness before terminating it with the right ECU terminals.
                              Then you just bosch it through the bulkhead and plug straight into the ECU connector when you do the pin swap. Simples
                              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                              Sold ABY-stock

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                              • newsh
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 16226
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #1020
                                The connector is numbered, at least at the ends, so you just count along, the wire colours in the pinout table help.

                                I bought one of These but it arrived after I'd finished, I have another one which is a bit of a fiddle

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