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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #1081
    New breather setup will be

    Crank breather to old head breather
    Modified pipe through the head will be the vent
    New cam vent to swirl pot
    Swirl pot drain to sump (below oil level)
    Swirl pot vent to catch tank

    The block will vent through the oil drain holes into the head, and also from the block breather into the stock head breather. The head will vent out the modified pipe in the cam cover. This is to combat oil surging out the block breather on hard right hand bends, out out the back of the head breather under hard acceleration. I am not sure if it is best to link the head and block via the stock breathers or not? I know Hank Iroz vented out just the head at 600bhp, relying on the oil drains for crank case ventilation and had no crank case pressure build up. Will oil slosh between the head and the crank case? Does it matter or would they be better blocked?
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • martinws
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Oct 2008
      • 917
      • Country: Scotland

      #1082
      I'm going to do the very same thing with breather pipe. I have a stainless water separator that I'll put more baffles in with possibly a swirl pot or bmw vortex thing before it. Are you blocking the front or back of the new head breather or venting both sides?

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      • martinws
        S2Forum Maniac
        • Oct 2008
        • 917
        • Country: Scotland

        #1083
        Ps. Do you think that with a bit of heat on the aluminium and water running through the stainless cam cover pipe you could pull it right out the back? Or is it all one piece?

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        • andy10v
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2009
          • 5996
          • Country: Scotland

          #1084
          Originally posted by martinws
          I'm going to do the very same thing with breather pipe. I have a stainless water separator that I'll put more baffles in with possibly a swirl pot or bmw vortex thing before it. Are you blocking the front or back of the new head breather or venting both sides?
          I have blocked the front just now and will vent out the rear, could do some experimenting into coke bottles to see what is the best?
          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
          Sold ABY-stock

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          • andy10v
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Mar 2009
            • 5996
            • Country: Scotland

            #1085
            Originally posted by martinws
            Ps. Do you think that with a bit of heat on the aluminium and water running through the stainless cam cover pipe you could pull it right out the back? Or is it all one piece?
            The long pipe is alloy, I didnt check what the ends are. I think remember reading that you can just twist the front one and pull it out.
            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
            Sold ABY-stock

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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #1086
              Intake manifold off, wagner offered up for a test fit, hits the power steering pump as expected, shorter belt on order.



              Next problem

              Injectors in fuel rail and the front of the injector hits the intake manifold;





              Injectors in intake manifold

              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
              Sold ABY-stock

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              • newsh
                S2Forum Obsessed
                • Aug 2003
                • 16226
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #1087
                That's weird, I'm sure mine doesn't do that

                Is it a genuine Wagner IM?

                ABY fuel rail? Do the fuel rail bolt holes line up?

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #1088
                  Its supposed to be genuine.

                  It was an ABY fuel rail I tried. The fuel rail is still too high in the pictures for the bolt holes to line up.
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • Error404
                    Super Moderator
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 19789
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #1089
                    Following this with interest as I will be doing this some time in the near future
                    Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                    Indigo ABY coupé
                    Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                    • andy10v
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 5996
                      • Country: Scotland

                      #1090
                      Anyway strop over so went back out for another look.

                      ABY fuel rail does not work with a dizzy, so back to the 3b fuel rail.



                      3B fuel rail is tight but fits the wagner intake, popped on the throttle body and ISV.



                      Need to do something about a throttle cable, I am going to make a hard pipe for the ISV like a wagner one but from copper plumbing pipe

                      Intake will fit down between the crossmember and the radiator hose
                      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                      Sold ABY-stock

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                      • newsh
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 16226
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #1091
                        Weird. I got the ABY rail to fit past the dizzy by bending the pipes up a bit, in actual fact the 3B pipe was a better fit to the stock fuel lines though..
                        I'll have a look at mine in a bit to check what the fit is like.

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                        • andy10v
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5996
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #1092
                          Thanks, I might have a look at mix and match with some bending then, however would need to get the fuel rail fitting first.
                          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                          Sold ABY-stock

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                          • newsh
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 16226
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #1093
                            I had a look and took some pics. The rail definitely pushes the injectors over at an angle, don't think it's as severe as yours but hard to tell.

                            One of the pics shows a sliver of daylight behind the mount showing that it doesn't bolt up flush.

                            There's a couple of the pipes bent to clear the dizzy too













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                            • andy10v
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 5996
                              • Country: Scotland

                              #1094
                              Thats great John, thank you for taking the time to do that. So it is tight but does fit, I will need to try wiggling mine a bit more, mine probably looks exaggerated as the rail is not down yet.

                              More lube and wiggling it is then!

                              That is great to see what you have done with the fuel lines, makes sense now.
                              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                              Sold ABY-stock

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                              • andy10v
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 5996
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #1095
                                Started first time!



                                Major leak from the injector-intake manifold, time for new o rings

                                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                                Sold ABY-stock

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