The '2 ton bugswatter' - back for a gentle stroke

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  • prj
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2010
    • 6308
    • Country: Estonia

    #691
    It sounds pretty good
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    • Rocco
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      • Aug 2007
      • 6393
      • Country: Spain

      #692
      Originally posted by prj
      It sounds pretty good
      is almost finished or not?
      RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
      BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
      LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #693
        Come on, we want details and especially from you Prj a good full blown log!!!
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • prj
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Mar 2010
          • 6308
          • Country: Estonia

          #694
          Not really started yet. Just worked on the ECU a little, but it's only mapped enough to move it around...
          Either way, not my position to speak about it, it'll be done when it's done and details will be given when the owner thinks that the time is right
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          • Rocco
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            • Aug 2007
            • 6393
            • Country: Spain

            #695
            Originally posted by JP
            Got a little more done on the exhaust side of things.

            Decided to run an independant exhaust and wastegate so I could retain the 3" downpipe for improved mid range response compared to a larger downpipe whilst still having flow almost equivalent of a 4" system at WOT. The theory is all sound on paper hopefully the results will be as desired.
            JP, do you think that? 3" downpipe + separate screamer = 4" exhaust?


            many people says that for GT35 and bigger turbos 3.5" is needed


            how is possible to measure or know about the back pressure?


            i have a 3" full system + now a cutout 1 meter after the turbo + a separate screamer pipe.... should be enough to map decently a GTX3582?
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • JP
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Mar 2007
              • 1858
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #696
              I have 3" straight system with 1 resonator by rear subframe and 1 small backbox exiting to twin resonator tip.

              Screamer pipe is 2.25" going through one straight cherry bomb.

              So yes equivalent of 4".
              UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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              • Rocco
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Aug 2007
                • 6393
                • Country: Spain

                #697
                Originally posted by JP
                I have 3" straight system with 1 resonator by rear subframe and 1 small backbox exiting to twin resonator tip.

                Screamer pipe is 2.25" going through one straight cherry bomb.

                So yes equivalent of 4".
                I've a resonator just where the middle muffler should be too!

                Don't you have problems with your neighbors and the police?

                I realized that most of the disturbing noise comes only thanks to the small rear box.... My wife told me that never again wants to travel in my car I'm thinking to re-install stock rear box for cruising and use the cutout for racing environments



                JP,in your car,the wastegate will be dumping gas after 6k to 8k or will be closed? Because if it closes it wouldn't help the 3" system or am I wrong?

                Correct me please
                RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                • URquattroGus
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 547
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #698
                  Originally posted by Rocco
                  I realized that most of the disturbing noise comes only thanks to the small rear box.... My wife told me that never again wants to travel in my car
                  Angus

                  (1984 ur quattro)

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                  • JP
                    S2Forum Extremist
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1858
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #699
                    Putting twin resonator on back helps creates low rumble so noise travels but not really loud.

                    Wastegate is open enough to flow at top end

                    Fitted larger injectors today and my choice of spark plugs and took a 1hr drive. Pretty much sorted cold start and pulls away smoothly from cold straightaway. Car drives lovely upto 5k haven't tried to go higher yet waiting till dyno, it's very very smooth compared to previous 3079 and cast evo manifold with stock intake and maf. Tried to get porsche gt3 to play on way home but not interested, probably the jet turbine noise coming up behind him as I pulled out. Afterwards prj mentioned i was only on 1/3rdthrottle and 0.4bar of boost

                    Video will come soonish.
                    UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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                    • prj
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #700
                      It's done, and it's been a long time since I've been scared in the passenger seat, but this one does it, especially in the wet...
                      Many firsts on this car ECU wise - speed density, dynamic second fuel pump activation, boost control via top WG chamber with custom solenoid, breaking 255 load and a few other things as well.
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                      • Rocco
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                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6393
                        • Country: Spain

                        #701
                        What clutch?

                        Have you mapped it on the road and wet conditions?
                        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                        • Rocco
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6393
                          • Country: Spain

                          #702
                          255 load means more than 600hp for sure true?
                          I remember to had 245 at 5000rpm in my 80.
                          RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                          BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                          LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                          • prj
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                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6308
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #703
                            Originally posted by Rocco
                            Have you mapped it on the road and wet conditions?
                            Uhm... yeah
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                            • Rocco
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6393
                              • Country: Spain

                              #704
                              Originally posted by prj
                              Uhm... yeah
                              Your life in Jp's hands
                              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                              • JP
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1858
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #705
                                I think what made him nervous in the end was I finally started to lift of the throttle. Which was a first since we started properly on it on thurs.

                                Anyway private road or not got wife and kids at home so I know when to make the call to say no.

                                Got dyno videos coming along with other bits and bobs although we tweaked the boost map post dyno junking the apexi avcr in favour of motronic after we couldn't get it to come in before 5300rpm with surge. Now with motronic we got full boost of 2.5bar around 4400rpm with no surge. So before posting final dyno figures I want to go and do a fresh power run with the improved control and wider power band.

                                We did several FATS logs which started to prove difficult to get exact figures for as the ECU sampling speed could no longer keep up with how fast the revs are climbing in third. But I'll let prj post the log and times up.

                                Saying that the rev counter is a tad slow too.
                                UrS6 Stroker + HTA3586 =

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