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  • Rocco
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    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #31
    Originally posted by prj
    I think people understood that the first three times you said it

    Anyway, yeah, this is for custom mapped setups.
    And doing Ross' car is not a problem, if he chooses this route, as I'll be over in the UK in October...
    and in the north of Spain too true??
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    • prj
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      • Mar 2010
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      • Country: Estonia

      #32
      Yes, yes...
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      • Thuppu
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        • Sep 2010
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        • Country: Finland

        #33
        Originally posted by prj
        Maxed out the RS4 HFM5 with the help of my friend Jason at AMD:

        540whp (~700 crank), M2.3.2.
        Seems that I need to change the turbo to a HX40 super. Any info about the specs, turbo, cams, head, injectors etc..?

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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
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          #34
          Originally posted by Thuppu
          Seems that I need to change the turbo to a HX40 super. Any info about the specs, turbo, cams, head, injectors etc..?
          China rods, stock pistons, 7A cams, built head, completely maxed 630cc injectors at 4 bar, relayed 044 pump.
          HX40 Super is a bit too much, at least if you want to drive it on your street, just like this GT35R. At least in my opinion...

          I'd say a HX35 or a GT30R is all that is needed.
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          • S2central.net
            Retired OG Mod
            • Jul 2003
            • 16590
            • Country: Northern Ireland

            #35
            The combination of cams and headwork shows nice result beyond 6000rpm... and the GT35 is clearly up for the flow requirements !!!
            Any idea on compression ratio here for reference ?
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            • prj
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              • Mar 2010
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              #36
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              • Thuppu
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                • Sep 2010
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                #37
                Hmm, HX35 is a ~500 crank hp turbo, my CT should be that also, hopefully. Garretts are too expencive for me.

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                • A80Avant
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                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #38
                  going by the rule of thumb and repo's previous indications, injectors on a 5cyl are roughly making the amount of power in hp crank as their cc @ 3bar,

                  in other words, maxed out 630cc should give around 630crank.

                  to me GT35 is a bit optimistic for 700hp

                  nonetheless, the idea here is to prove that RS4 maf is more than enough for at least more than 600hp, so the ultimate problem with the RS2 motronic mapping is now gone!

                  Good news Dmitri and well done, as this was a huge problem for those being on the limit of RS2 Maf of around 500ish hp. Now they can get a map done properly at least if they dont look to map themselves and get into it.

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                  • prj
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                    • Mar 2010
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by A80Avant
                    going by the rule of thumb and repo's previous indications, injectors on a 5cyl are roughly making the amount of power in hp crank as their cc @ 3bar,

                    in other words, maxed out 630cc should give around 630crank.

                    to me GT35 is a bit optimistic for 700hp
                    If you look at picture you can see it's race octane. Jason's dyno is brutal - put that car onto any other dyno, and you will see higher numbers.
                    Good news Dmitri and well done, as this was a huge problem for those being on the limit of RS2 Maf of around 500ish hp. Now they can get a map done properly at least if they dont look to map themselves and get into it.
                    500?
                    MAF is maxed out on a 3071 car from 4000 rpm to redline.
                    Stock MAF can't even read 400hp.
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                    • orangepeel
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                      • Feb 2011
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                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #40
                      prj is there anything for the 3b maf that can be done that dosent cost the earth or have to buy one

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                      • prj
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                        • Mar 2010
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                        #41
                        In theory yes, in practice you will just have to buy a new maf.
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                        • orangepeel
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                          • Feb 2011
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                          #42
                          In That Case Dose Any One Need A Kidney Or A Liver So I Can Buy A New Maf

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                          • EspenW
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                            • Apr 2007
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by AMD
                            Safe to say a large margin... Dyno sheet looks good!
                            Thanks Jason, and welcome to the forum
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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #44
                              What is the physical size of the RS4 Maf?

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                              • Rocco
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                                • Aug 2007
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                                • Country: Spain

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Jamo
                                What is the physical size of the RS4 Maf?
                                9.2cm i think
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