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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #46
    Originally posted by audiman
    Did any arrow users get a free sticker? I didnt, and for a grand i would have expected some!!! Im gonna get some made using the logo on the box. Doug/Mark do you want one for the car/engine bay?

    Car wont be ready for CC Im too far advanced for rushing it now. Most of theengine is at the machine shop now.

    I have opted to machine the pistoms down, this should give a CR of about 8.7/8.8:1. Been speaking to Grant at AET about turbos today, Im goona go for the same one as he was using about 1.5 years ago. K26/27 #8 hotside with a custom coldside for increased durability and good EGT's. The housing alone is 360+vat, but they will use my existing shaft 'section'. Total cost is about 680+VAT. Im told that this will be good for 500+bhp. That should be the last turbo I buy.

    I had a real good chat with him today. He listed all the options out and basically said, how much power do you want? When I said that the current blower was at its limits he suggested this one. Only problem being lag is gonna be a bit worse, full boost at about 3800rpm, instead of at 3200rpm. Ah well.
    I'd be interested in the full spec of the turbo, trim size, A/R ratio etc if you wouldn't mind.
    Interestingly enough K26/K27 is the MTM spec of the exhaust/compressor housings.
    I've been reading what the people state side have done with the K26 / Garrett hybrids.
    Can someone confirm that an RS2 turbo is a K26 exhaust housing, with a K24 compressor housing with a K26 trim wheel machined in?

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    • audiman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Jul 2003
      • 4827
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #47
      There are a few Garret/KKK hybrids. AET are doing these at the moment, but this was well out of my budget, around 1k+. Having said that they offer outstanding durability, with minimal lag for the size. I will find out exact spec once in my hands. At the moment im trying to sort outsome money for it!!
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      Audi UR Quattro
      Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
      Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
      Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #48
        Cheers ears, keep me informed, i love turbo specs.
        I'm forever mucking around with garrett hybrid turbo specs on *cough* R5's
        KKK is a complete mystery to me!
        I'm really interested to find the A/R ratio of the exhaust side (or hot side i see it refered to alot on here!) as this is side ia what primarly defines bhp limit.
        Yeh the Garrett / K26 hybrids are cool but require water and oil line adaptation which is a real b*tch.

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        • audiman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Jul 2003
          • 4827
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #49
          To be honest, I chat to Grant about what I want, and he recommends the turbo I need. Then I tell him how much money I have to spend, and he tells me to sod off!!!

          But really, just tell him how much power you want and the car spec and he will advise you on the best option. He runs the Dubweiser mk1 golf with AAN conversion. This has the monster sized Garret hybrid at the moment. He was aksed to stop running at GTi as they wanted the KW golf to win this year.
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          Audi UR Quattro
          Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
          Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
          Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #50
            LOL if i had the cash, i would, but unlike you mate, i'm not a Mechie i'm a Techie, understand the principles can't put them into action so modding would cost me double bubble.

            Wouldn't mind one day just going above 300 Bhp but thats way off in the future.

            Still got the short shifter sat on my desk!!

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            • audiman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Jul 2003
              • 4827
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #51
              300 is nothing to worry about. Thats well withing reach. It starts to get expensive going over 350bhp(reliably)
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              Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
              Audi UR Quattro
              Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
              Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
              Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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              • aronmatic2
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jan 2004
                • 2129
                • Country: Hungary

                #52
                here is my kkk k26/27
                if you need a turbo like this, sen da mail and we can talk abuot it.
                it is cost 1600 euro with the exhaust manifold.

                [IMG]www.freeweb.hu/aronmatic2/leomlo[/IMG]
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                Real carbon parts for S2 and RS2. Check Carbondesign on facebook

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                • aronmatic2
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2129
                  • Country: Hungary

                  #53
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                  Real carbon parts for S2 and RS2. Check Carbondesign on facebook

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                  • caterpillar
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2480

                    #54
                    try this: www.cheapturbo.com they have MY turbo over there for half the price ....yessss!

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                    • audiman
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 4827
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #55
                      @aronamtic2, I have that turbo already. I need a bigger one. How much for the manifold tho on its own?
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                      Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                      Audi UR Quattro
                      Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                      Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                      Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                      • audiman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 4827
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #56
                        More badnews for this damn project
                        The turbo was tested and stripped to reveal a crack in the exhaust housing and scoring of the bearings. This was caused by something entering the oil feed hole, bit of muck maybe.
                        Anyway it was either 300 to rebuild it, or 500 to change it to a #8 hotside or 700 to alter it to a rull face spec K26/27 with some fancy housings!! Quess which i opted for
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                        Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                        Audi UR Quattro
                        Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                        Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                        Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                        • Beetie
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 1517
                          • Country: England

                          #57
                          Originally posted by audiman
                          More badnews for this damn project
                          The turbo was tested and stripped to reveal a crack in the exhaust housing and scoring of the bearings. This was caused by something entering the oil feed hole, bit of muck maybe.
                          Anyway it was either 300 to rebuild it, or 500 to change it to a #8 hotside or 700 to alter it to a rull face spec K26/27 with some fancy housings!! Quess which i opted for
                          The 300 rebuild? Your having as good a luck as i am kid! Still when they are back up and running
                          Was a '93 3B, Dont ask now tho......

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                          • audiman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 4827
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #58
                            I went for the dear one

                            Also have ordered an IC from the same dude as Martin JS!!
                            My bank account is looking very sorry
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                            Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                            Audi UR Quattro
                            Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                            Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                            Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                            • audiman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 4827
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #59
                              Well today im informed that the crank, lightened flywheel and pulley have all been balanced. My Motorsport 044 fuel pump also arrived and my pistons have been skimmed and the block honed.

                              The head is stripped and being flowed, but all the exhaust valve guides are badly worn(1mm movement side to side!!!) so they need to be done aswell. Should get the block built up etc this week and the head next week.

                              AET phoned today aswell and my new turbo will be with me tomorrow. Lets hope it fits
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                              Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                              Audi UR Quattro
                              Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                              Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                              Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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                              • audiman
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 4827
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #60
                                Here are some pictures for you lot

                                Std piston(has been cut in half hence the line)
                                Attached Files
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                                Tom C - www.rcmr.co.uk
                                Audi UR Quattro
                                Audi 100 C3 2.0 5 cyl 115ps
                                Audi S2 - 07k engine project aiming for 800ps
                                Audi B5 RS4 645ps 911nm

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