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  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #106
    Bram it depends on how you want it.I think both options are good enough for the 3071R (i have 500x30x65mm) and inlet temperatures are very low.

    If you will go to a bigger turbo later on though you would be better off with the reverse IM and IC.

    I on the other hand im holding still the OEM inlet manifold because i like the cruise control very much and im not sure how easy it is to make it happen with the reverse.Its my compromise against efficiency at the moment.I am not sure if i use the GT3076 in the future and find it more laggy,i may go for the IM myself

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    • Bram
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Aug 2006
      • 2582
      • Country: Netherlands

      #107
      Many people re-use the cruise control with reverse IM. That should not be holding you back.

      In a sense the throttle respons is already superb with the Garret turbos and the spool-up and the max boost RPMs of my turbo are also quite low. I doubt if the reverse inlet IM will improve both the throttle-respons and the spool-up RPM with significant difference.

      The thickness of the RS2 EVO IC from Carsten is approx. 30% increased, compared to the OEM RS2 IC. So I guess for a GT3071R setup that should be sufficient. Maybe I should just buy it and I can probably sell it again when a reverse inlet IM is needed

      I think I just answered my own questions!
      Last edited by Bram; 25 January 2009, 12:36.

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      • Henkjan
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Aug 2003
        • 1705
        • Country: Netherlands

        #108
        just to add to your confusion : with the Wagner IM there is less plumbing between turbo and engine, so (apart from the obvious advantage of reduced lag, less heat-up, and slightly higher efficiency (due to lower friction losses in the pipes)) less chance on pipes/hose connections leaking or failing...

        btw: has anyone posted results of just the IM upgrade? so rolling road and buttmeter before and after, where the only change was the IM?

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #109
          Originally posted by bram
          Many people re-use the cruise control with reverse IM. That should not be holding you back.

          In a sense the throttle respons is already superb with the Garret turbos and the spool-up and the max boost RPMs of my turbo are also quite low. I doubt if the reverse inlet IM will improve both the throttle-respons and the spool-up RPM with significant difference.

          The thickness of the RS2 EVO IC from Carsten is approx. 30% increased, compared to the OEM RS2 IC. So I guess for a GT3071R setup that should be sufficient. Maybe I should just buy it and I can probably sell it again when a reverse inlet IM is needed

          I think I just answered my own questions!
          ALL Turbo's not matter of size gain from the reverse IM

          S2_Bo couldn't believe the difference on a stock K24.

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          • quattrostyle
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Oct 2006
            • 6229
            • Country: Netherlands

            #110
            Originally posted by Henkjan
            btw: has anyone posted results of just the IM upgrade? so rolling road and buttmeter before and after, where the only change was the IM?
            I will put a modified AAN IM on my S2 with stock turbo, but with RS2 EM and bigger IC, will do a rolling road test afterwards.

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            • A80Avant
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Sep 2005
              • 10873
              • Country: Greece

              #111
              can i see some photos of cruise control remodification on carstens IM then please?? i need to get some ideas....

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              • Lupo911
                S2Forum Addict
                • Apr 2005
                • 312
                • Country: Germany

                #112
                Originally posted by Henkjan

                btw: has anyone posted results of just the IM upgrade? so rolling road and buttmeter before and after, where the only change was the IM?
                as soon as i get my "Testcar" i will suply some Comparison Data...

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                • Bram
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 2582
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Lupo911
                  as soon as i get my "Testcar" i will suply some Comparison Data...
                  Hi Carsten,

                  What data will you provide and what is the turbo config of this "Testcar"?

                  Data will be HP increase? Inlet temps? spool-up gains?



                  Cheers

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                  • Bram
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 2582
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #114
                    Thanks to the good service from Aelred. 4 Konies for the Avant
                    Attached Files

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                    • Bram
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 2582
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #115
                      And also a big thanks to Carsten for sending me one of his last RS2 EVO intercoolers

                      It's a massive IC. I have large hands
                      Attached Files

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                      • A80Avant
                        S2Forum Obsessed
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 10873
                        • Country: Greece

                        #116
                        massive indeed! a very nice addition !

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                        • madpugger
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 1901
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #117
                          WOW i cant wait to get home from offshore and see mine

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                          Nurburgring 700
                          1995 S2 Avant

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #118
                            Originally posted by bram
                            And also a big thanks to Carsten for sending me one of his last RS2 EVO intercoolers

                            It's a massive IC. I have large hands
                            I do like it in black, I must get pics of my IC I received today from Carsten

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                            • Rocco
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6393
                              • Country: Spain

                              #119
                              great interccoler upgrade you have in your "big" hands Bram


                              aniway if you go for the reverse IM from Carsten this intercooler it´s useless true??
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                              • Henkjan
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 1705
                                • Country: Netherlands

                                #120
                                Originally posted by bram
                                ..... Maybe I should just buy it and I can probably sell it again when a reverse inlet IM is needed
                                so it is useless as in: will not fit on yr own car... it can be very usefull on another car

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