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  • newsh
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Aug 2003
    • 16226
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #706
    Originally posted by AndyP
    That torque curve is impressive for a 2.2, almost the same as my 2.6! What turbo and boost is this?
    GT3071 0.63. 1.9Bar. Wagner IM, IC, EM. Forged rods but otherwise stock.

    S2 Coupe 3B Project


    Ur quattro restoration

    S2 Avant

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    • Tractor Dave
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      • Dec 2017
      • 5986
      • Country: Wales

      #707
      She is looking very smart John. You now have quite a collection
      Nothelle S2 Avant
      Black Ur project
      Silver Rs2 Project gone
      Ocianic Ur project gone
      S2 Coupe project gone
      Urs6 plus project gone

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      • newsh
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Aug 2003
        • 16226
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #708
        Originally posted by Tractor Dave
        She is looking very smart John. You now have quite a collection
        Anything but smart close up unfortunately Dave. She needs a full respray really.

        S2 Coupe 3B Project


        Ur quattro restoration

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        • K Simmonds
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2007
          • 7627
          • Country: Wales

          #709
          I wouldn't get it painted the moment you do so sod's law dictates some batty old bird will scrape up the side of it...

          That's is an impressive dyno result, I'd be well chuffed.
          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
          1994 MTM RS2.
          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
          2000 B5 TQS.

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          • K Simmonds
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Dec 2007
            • 7627
            • Country: Wales

            #710
            Also watching progress with your Maxx ECU as that's the management system I'm going for on my B3 Saloon project, to what extent is it 'plug and play' I sold my 3B engine loom to help another member who had suffered an engine bay fire. I'm not that daunted by the prospect of putting together a fresh loom, I have box's and box's of OEM connectors, an ECU connector and plenty of nice fresh wire's with a wealth of different colour codes... And most importantly time.

            Also I have all the parts to do away with coil-overs as I'm fitting them to my B3 Saloon, the only thing being the front struts are the smaller diameter, I ran them on my 3B to save a tiny bit of weight and found they worked just fine with decent quality dampers, I used Bilstien B4's so nothing that exotic and I have a pair of NOS unused Boge struts. Got plenty of decent top mounts and upper spring plates, unfortunately I sold my stock springs ages ago. Anyone who's been a Scotland run with me will attest to the fact my car went around corners just fine and that was fully load with my mobile workshop and spares.

            After extensive testing and mucking about I found the best suspension set up for fast road use to be stock springs and dampers, poly bush everything, RS2 front ARB and White Line ARB set firm. That and getting the car set up with as much negative camber as the tolerances allow, as much castor on the front as you can get, the toe angles set to factory and matched side to side not just close enough to make the machine happy.
            Last edited by K Simmonds; 1 December 2019, 19:10. Reason: More info...
            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
            1994 MTM RS2.
            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
            2000 B5 TQS.

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            • newsh
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              • Aug 2003
              • 16226
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #711
              Originally posted by K Simmonds
              Also watching progress with your Maxx ECU as that's the management system I'm going for on my B3 Saloon project, to what extent is it 'plug and play' I sold my 3B engine loom to help another member who had suffered an engine bay fire. I'm not that daunted by the prospect of putting together a fresh loom, I have box's and box's of OEM connectors, an ECU connector and plenty of nice fresh wire's with a wealth of different colour codes... And most importantly time.
              Worth keeping an eye out for a decent ABY loom, you’ll want to run 5 coils anyway.
              I did the pin swap on my 3B loom and added the extra wires.
              Wouldn’t be too hard to make a loom though I guess, time being the biggest factor



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              • newsh
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                • Aug 2003
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                • Country: United Kingdom

                #712
                The car definitely needs an alignment check!

                S2 Coupe 3B Project


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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #713
                  Decent Alignment is critical with these cars! The tolerances are so wide, especially on camber, that you could end up with one front wheel set at 0.00 and the other on one degree negative and the machine will say it's okay. I set mine up by first loosening the strut to bearing housing bolts and putting a jack under the brake disc to get as much negative there as possible, a bonus of this is one can take it apart and put it back exactly where it was before. I've also found his allows one to get more castor on the front ball joints, which you want as much as you can get even if the machine goes into the red. Set the front struts to 1.2 degree's negative each side, more if you want. Same procedure on the back but aim for even more negative camber, I had mine close to 2 degree's each side.

                  I found the toe out wants to as close to factory max as pos and the same each side.

                  Finding a decent place to do the job is half the battle!

                  I'm ripping the stock suspension off my B3 80 this week as I have custom coil-overs with a wide range of springs to choose from ready to go on, my car is going to be a straight line machine so eliminating the rear end squatting is my main goal. If your interested in the stock set up drop me a PM and I'll do you a Xmas deal on all the stuff I have.

                  I'm being lazy....Does Maxx ECU require a MAF?
                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • newsh
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 16226
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #714
                    Originally posted by K Simmonds

                    I'm being lazy....Does Maxx ECU require a MAF?
                    No it doesn’t


                    S2 Coupe 3B Project


                    Ur quattro restoration

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                    • sal_s2
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 1287
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #715
                      Impressive John, you must be well pleased. Doesnt look like theres any lag. What cams are you running?

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                      • newsh
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                        • Aug 2003
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                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #716
                        Originally posted by sal_s2
                        Impressive John, you must be well pleased. Doesnt look like theres any lag. What cams are you running?
                        Original 3B cams

                        S2 Coupe 3B Project


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                        • newsh
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #717
                          Some progress over at QC
                          Some random part collected, wing badges and boot loom.





                          S2 Coupe 3B Project


                          Ur quattro restoration

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                          • newsh
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #718
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                            S2 Coupe 3B Project


                            Ur quattro restoration

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                            • Tractor Dave
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2017
                              • 5986
                              • Country: Wales

                              #719
                              Nice.
                              Now that's a proper clean and tidy workshop.
                              Nothelle S2 Avant
                              Black Ur project
                              Silver Rs2 Project gone
                              Ocianic Ur project gone
                              S2 Coupe project gone
                              Urs6 plus project gone

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                              • newsh
                                S2Forum Obsessed
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 16226
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #720
                                Originally posted by Tractor Dave
                                Nice.
                                Now that's a proper clean and tidy workshop.
                                QC! Wish it was mine!

                                S2 Coupe 3B Project


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