Audi S6 C4

[lcsmith]

I have a collection of parts in the garage already mainly costmetic, but these could be sold off if I ditch the car:

Spare wheels
Spare Interior - which combined would make an almost new leather interior (Using two very good passengers seats (One on to the drivers) and have a barely used rear seat set
New grills and lights (nearly all now)
Spare wings (4x!)
New valances
New suspension
BOSE system
Lots of dynamat foil and foam (enough to do an estate properly) over £400 worth
Other stuff I forget

etc etc

I'm looking for a pair of front wings, you wouldn't be up for selling me a pair would you? It'll help keep another S6 on the road

Let me know!

Back on subject, if you do rebuild the car fully, it'll be better than anything newer you can buy for £10k, as for colour - leave it original (unless you're going bare shell) it just looks naff when you look in the boot, door shuts and engine bay and the colour is different!

[Duffelcoat]

Hi

Will let you know re wings,

The ones on mine are rusty on the edges and probably can be saved, but aren't great.

I have two other sets, both are in good condition, either way I will end up with some spare so will let you know!

As for colour, I will see how far the strip down goes and then see...

[K7ERG]

Hi

As you know I like C4s and the 5pot. There is a point where they do cost a lot of money but they will keep going on and on. I have spent a fortune on several c4. My urs4 being one. They are great cars and after crashing in one I do believe the build quality was what saved me. Which I left the car without any injury.

Now to answer the question if I had spare cash like 10k I would buy something else now. Would still be Audi and Quattro.

If you need any parts I still have some kicking about and will be clearing out my shed soon. Old sensors, ecus for control units etc. I might also have a undertray somewhere.

Craig

[Duffelcoat]

Hi

As you know I like C4s and the 5pot. There is a point where they do cost a lot of money but they will keep going on and on. I have spent a fortune on several c4. My urs4 being one. They are great cars and after crashing in one I do believe the build quality was what saved me. Which I left the car without any injury.

Now to answer the question if I had spare cash like 10k I would buy something else now. Would still be Audi and Quattro.

If you need any parts I still have some kicking about and will be clearing out my shed soon. Old sensors, ecus for control units etc. I might also have a undertray somewhere.

Craig

Cheers Craig,

What would you buy? This is the bit that troubles me, I need something like an A6 estate, but don't want to go down the boring route ideally!!

Can I live with an auto, I am not sure, maybe I am old fashioned!

[lcsmith]

Hi

Will let you know re wings,

The ones on mine are rusty on the edges and probably can be saved, but aren't great.

I have two other sets, both are in good condition, either way I will end up with some spare so will let you know!

That would be great!

Can I live with an auto, I am not sure, maybe I am old fashioned!

I have heard from a few people that the new auto gearboxes in performance audis are brilliant they had converted their thinking on the subject, I haven't driven any new autos but maybe a test drive would settle the matter...?

[macspring]

Hi Duffel,

Keep it, will post a list of items to put on your 'To Do List', but to reassure yourself check later Audis, 'DSG' is cool, but such Audis might still be too dear for the £10k budget?.

HTH a bit.

[K7ERG]

Not my fav colour but there is a big spec Audi s4 B5. For 7k that's one idea. Depends if you are wanting performance. Or the b7 s4 lots under 10k just under 350bhp n/a. That's what I would do. Everyone is different. I know after owning a b5 it never felt like the c4 build quality. Not been in much b7s to comment.

If diesel I would go 3.0 tdi Quattro if looking for better mpg.

[moggies]

Seems a shame to abandon after all your enthusiasm?
What is the issue with the car? (in the garage)

You would be better to keep it and plug away at it slowly rather than giving up, spending bit by bit?

My S6 is for sale purely to the lack of use, each time I take it out I think, why sell it, then I spend some more time on it to keep it.

[macspring]

Hi Duffel,

Keep it, will post a list of items to put on your 'To Do List',

HTH a bit.

This should help


1. Engine –

2. Paper air filter in standard air box
3. New MAF - if any doubt
4. Front mounted intercooler
5. Rebuilt head + ported and flowed
6. Port matched manifolds
7. New G40 and MFTS, new connector plug for the MFTS
8. Rebuilt bottom end with rings and bearing shells, existing rods and pistons if bore is fine, or new pistons and forged rods if not
9. Balanced assembly of crank, front damper and standard oem AAN flywheel
10. New bolt and ‘cog’ for the crankshaft / timing belt
11. Wagner RS2 Evo exhaust manifold
12. 3” inch downpipe from EFI
13. oem exhaust – re-welded and patched where necessary + new oem hangers
14. Cat by pass pipes to marry 3”inch downpipe and oem system
15. Blueprinted RS2 turbo
16. Matching injectors, and new plastic inserts for the injectors, suitably sealed to avoid pressure leaks
17. Black silicone boost and water hoses
18. Silicone vacuum hoses with suitably small clamps
19. New knock sensors
20. Replace now tired plastic oem water pipe outlet at the rear of the engine with a new oem one, or aftermarket metal one.
21. Clean out, and replace where necessary the PCV system, or replace altogether with an 034 aftermarket one or similar
22. Check and use or replace oil pump
23. Clean and reuse oem oil cooler, or replace with better second hand oem oil cooler
24. New style ignition coil kit, + NGK spark plugs
25. Clean out your idle stabilisation valve


26. Gearbox

27. Oem 6 speed gearbox with new oil
28. Tighten up or replace any worn bits of the gear shift linkage mechanism

29. Clutch

30. Sachs sports clutch kit, so a slight upgrade, with no disadvantages for daily use. No 4k rpm launches to be done anyway. Car is not for abusing.
31. ANN flywheel refaced and balanced as part of the crank rotational assembly

32. Suspension

33. New Lemforder lower wishbones
34. New Lemforder track rod end ball joints
35. Lemforder oem top mounts
36. Bambridge's threaded connecting bar for linking track rod ends and rack arms
37. Standard oem rubber subframe, wishbone, and FARB bushes to preserve everyday real road bumps comfort
38. New oem ’92 sports springs and matching oem shocks, or coil overs with possibly softer springs.
39. Rear ARB if none already fitted – oem bushes.
40. Sandblast all wishbones, hubs and struts, etch prime them, then POR15 them.
41. New standard oem engine and gearbox mounts, not sure if diesel ones with be a slight but non harsh upgrade? Pack out front snubber to reduce up and down movement
42. Faster Steering Rack – i.e. less turns lock to lock, more like an S2 rack, if you have the funds

43. Wheels

44. Mk 1 S8s with spacers to give an ET of (30/35 ???) and 255/35/18 tyres.
45. (Set of winter wheeels – 18” rims with 225/40/18 tyres ) ???

46. Brakes – Front

47. Big four or six pot Brembo or AP calipers for 323mm or bigger belled discs
48. New rear calipers, or upgrade to 300mm rear discs and matching calipers from a later model (R)S4
49. New handbrake cables if needed
50. New oem hoses
51. Copper grease hydraulic connection points to avoid seizures
52. ATE type oem brake pads.
53. Flush through new brake fluid and also the line to the clutch slave cylinder

54. Interior

55. Black/ carbon leather interior.
56. Oem front sports seats or Recaro aftermarket sport seats – lighter and more “buckety”.
57. Door pull triggers sand blasted and powder coated in gloss black.
58. Black headlining and non silver ringed clocks from an S6+ spec car
59. Three small gauges in the centre air vents, i.e. Boost, Air/Fuel ratio, and Oil Pressure.
60. Clean or replace the drivers seat belt to ensure it retracts like a new car’s belt
61. Install an oem CD player in the boot
62. Skip upgrading to Bose and upgrade past that with an oem looking speaker system using a Delta head unit

63. Lighting

64. HID front dipped Headlights
65. HID matching type of light sidelights
66. Electrically relay’d main beam circuit with hi-performance 55 watt halogen bulbs
67. Standard rear number plate bulbs

68. Wipers

69. Change the wiper arms to suitable factory aero wiper arms to allow the use of aero blades without the big hybrid connector if putting aero blades on the oem old style arms.
70. Retain a wiper arm spoiler on the new arm to avoid RHD driver wiper lift at speed in the rain
71. Take apart the wiper mechanism and clean out the old hard grease and replace with new grease if you have time

72. General

73. Tidy up any loom issues
74. Copper grease all suspension nuts and bolts to avoid needless seizure
75. Clean all muck out of the four wheel arches and behind the plastic wheel arch liners by taking them out
76. Adjust the drivers door to take the drop out of it

77. For others to add to !
78. ???
79. ???


A fair bit but not as bad as it sounds, but the car would then last a long time without much input apart from normal servicing.

Haven't priced each item from a parts point of view.


HTH

[Duffelcoat]

What can I say, what a week....

See attached, battlebus is back in service!

It has a boot load of logs in the back (I've been freezing for a fews weeks! lol), and can still put the mockers on a hot hatch. Oh the joy!

[macspring]

[Duffelcoat]

Long and short, car is staying.

Still not sure what the problem was, but it appears coil pack burnt out as a result of some wiring problem.

Mechanic did explain, but to be honest I have no idea.

Anyway car is staying, I am going to try and learn or do some things myself going forward.

[macspring]

Hi Duffel,

Make sure you have a computer terminal in your garage, a good camera, ( and a live video link. )

No doubt everyone on here will be pleased to assist in this learning experience.

Research on here or ask before you do anything, and you'll find out how to do it, and be less likely to stray off course, lessening the chance of wasting time, money and effort. BTDT

Open a bank account with a monthly standing order, and see if it can keep up with your expenditure.

Looking forward to future posts, in a good way.

Kind regards.

[Duffelcoat]

Hi Duffel,

Make sure you have a computer terminal in your garage, a good camera, ( and a live video link. )

No doubt everyone on here will be pleased to assist in this learning experience.

Research on here or ask before you do anything, and you'll find out how to do it, and be less likely to stray off course, lessening the chance of wasting time, money and effort. BTDT

Open a bank account with a monthly standing order, and see if it can keep up with your expenditure.

Looking forward to future posts, in a good way.

Kind regards.

Thanks, should be interesting,

I am starting with the front suspension and see how I get on!

Also, planning to do the interior, which I think wont be too bad but time consuming...

Have lots of bits for the car and am planning a respray in volcano black and replacing the rusty wings and door/s

I wont be doing the respray though!!!

Any recommendations for tool essentials/garage equipment?

I have a Halfords tool set and am planning to get something to lift the car, a torque wrench, axle stands, chocks and some scaffolding bar. I have angle grinder etc and a friendly garage that would probably help me with things like pressing out bushes etc if needed.

Is there a proper good manual I can get for these cars, I have Haynes which is obviously no good except for basics and interior, but could do with something better.

I plan to take the front suspension apart, replace all the bushes and do some rust protection including maybe fitting the bilstein suspension kit.

If I haven't killed myself or the car by then I will try the rear!

Not sure this is going to end well but I have to try!

[jaychen]

these are what you should have

a full set of 3/8'' drive (5mm - 20mm)
a full set of 1/2'' drive (8mm - 35mm)
various extensions for both sizes
breaker bars

things like sway bar mounts need two sockets, one to hold the bolt and one to undo the nut, this is where you need two sets.

full set of open ender and ring spanners is good from 10mm - 24mm..

an impact driver and a good compressor to run it

i think most of this stuff is a must have for people

you'll need a 6+ft breaker bar (i used a big 8ft piece of ally pipe) when putting the lca back onto the strut

plus its handy to have since you can just put it over the end of a ratchet and then you have monster turning force