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  • #31
    Sun light sensor is intact

    I defiantly do not have C13 the space in the connector is empty

    I have left the ccu off for a long period of time with some random settings and appearers to retain them, it seems strange to me that there is no permanent 12V.
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    2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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    • #32
      Originally posted by rj scotty View Post
      Sun light sensor is intact

      I defiantly do not have C13 to space in the connector is empty

      I have left the ccu off for a long period of time with some random settings and appearers to retain them, it seems strange to me that there is no permanent 12V.
      I can understand that it can remember last settings without power using modern flash memory but not how it could calculate engine standing time without power.

      John

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      • #33
        looking at the diagram again now

        Could it be D9 on this controller is a permanent 12v feed ?

        cheers

        rich
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        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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        • #34
          C13 exists as unswitched 12V (terminal 30) on the MY96 A4 schematic

          But it does not feature for MY97 or MY98 - instead the supply is a switched feed on a black/red wire that lands on pin D9 of the head unit.

          Pin D9 on the MY96 wiring has a completely different purpose with a connection to F73 (refridgerant low pressure switch on the evaporator) so be careful like I said to ensure everything lines up.
          Paul Nugent
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          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

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          • #35
            no it's switched
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            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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            • #36
              Guess the later head unit relies on NV memory for whatever it has to store and doesn't require the permanent 12V feed
              Paul Nugent
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              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • #37
                I am looking at My97 and 98 diagrams right now - there is no permanent 12V supplied to the head unit.

                I've captured some tables of info here - saad man that I am about wiring... will endeavour to formalise it and compare / contrast the two systems.
                Paul Nugent
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                1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                • #38
                  beat me to it
                  still strange no 12v permenant
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                  "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                  BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                  1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                  1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                  2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                  • #39
                    So I say again - do not trust the russki dagrams... they are close but not perfect.
                    Paul Nugent
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                    Administrator http://S2forum.com

                    1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                    2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                    2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                    Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                    There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                    • #40
                      This is strange johne's chart shows D9 as a 12V x load dump (I know what x load is now thanks to s2central ) and that his is an earlier controller.

                      Really Appreciate the input guys

                      cheers

                      rich
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                      "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                      BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                      1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                      1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                      2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                      • #41
                        Another silly question where dose J153 live on the S2
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                        "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                        BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                        1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                        1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                        2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                        • #42
                          Now I'm normally pretty hot on all those relay positions, but gimme a clue on what J153 is here .
                          Paul Nugent
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                          Administrator http://S2forum.com

                          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                          • #43
                            J153 switch unit for magnetic clutch
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                            "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                            BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                            1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                            1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                            2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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                            • #44
                              Surely you mean J44 - that is Aux position 4 in the S2/RS2 with climate - common to B5 platform as well - I mean the J44 label of course.
                              Paul Nugent
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                              Administrator http://S2forum.com

                              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
                              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
                              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

                              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

                              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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                              • #45
                                It's labled on the diagram as J153 but has a number 4 in a black rectangle next to it it has 8 conections.
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                                "For what you spent on that you could have brought a new car"
                                BUT I DON'T WANT A NEW CAR!

                                1995 S2 Avant, Volcano Black
                                1982 VW Golf Mk1, primer yellow, will be finished one day, maybe.
                                2003 VW T4 long nose X pack, (has become project)

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