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  • K Simmonds
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Dec 2007
    • 7627
    • Country: Wales

    #616
    Oh dear, that very disheartening, try and look on the bright side and at least it's not a head gasket failure to contend with. Also as cambelts go they're not hard at all to change on these cars as long as you have a crank locking tool and preferably a 3/4" drive breaker bar and socket.

    Still, if that was me I'd have been retrieving tools and trim from around my garden this morning.

    If your stuck for a locking tool you can borrow mine as that's can go in the post. In fact you can have loan of all the tools required if you can come and get them, depends whereabouts you are.
    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
    1994 MTM RS2.
    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
    2000 B5 TQS.

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    • Bowie69
      S2Forum Fiend
      • Nov 2013
      • 2675
      • Country: England

      #617
      That's very kind of you Kit, yes it was disheartening, however I had been wondering if I should do the belt, it as been a while, as this post shows....



      just annoying having my hand forced!
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      ​​​​​​​Parts are on order and as that post shows I have the tools ​​​​​​ , so game on, may even strip it on Sunday, can hardly drive it like it is.
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      ​​​​​​​When I did it last time I paid more for a Dolz pump on recommendation from here, not sure if the shaft or block seal failed, but guess will find out.











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      • Tractor Dave
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Dec 2017
        • 5984
        • Country: Wales

        #618
        Should have lasted longer than that That's only 7 years
        Nothelle S2 Avant
        Black Ur project
        Silver Rs2 Project gone
        Ocianic Ur project gone
        S2 Coupe project gone
        Urs6 plus project gone

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        • K Simmonds
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Dec 2007
          • 7627
          • Country: Wales

          #619
          Oh well, at least you have the tools to hand, that's a major bonus and you obviously know how do the job having done it before. Really 7/8 years is about when these belt's want to be changed if you to stay ever slightly on the cautious side, mileage dependant of course.

          I whacked a new one on my 3B after one year and 8K miles on road then four years of simply being stood as I had the complete front end off doing other jobs. I looked at it and thought may as well, took about 1/2 an hour. I also didn't do the previous one myself and had found some slightly questionable work done on other area's of the car so figured it would be good to be sure it had been done right.

          I'm not planning on doing any cambelts soon, and very rarely use the 3/4" stuff so it really wouldn't have put me out at all.
          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
          1994 MTM RS2.
          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
          2000 B5 TQS.

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          • Bowie69
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Nov 2013
            • 2675
            • Country: England

            #620
            Originally posted by Tractor Dave
            Should have lasted longer than that That's only 7 years
            Quite, and a bit 55K.

            ​​​​​​​Got a QH one coming this time, hopefully OK.

            ​​​​​​​As kit says not a terrible job to do on these.



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            • Tractor Dave
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Dec 2017
              • 5984
              • Country: Wales

              #621
              Careful. QH quality has dropped considerably in the last few years. I would personally get an SKF direct from their website or a Gates from a reputable source.
              what anti freeze are you using?
              Nothelle S2 Avant
              Black Ur project
              Silver Rs2 Project gone
              Ocianic Ur project gone
              S2 Coupe project gone
              Urs6 plus project gone

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              • K Simmonds
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Dec 2007
                • 7627
                • Country: Wales

                #622
                Originally posted by Tractor Dave
                Should have lasted longer than that That's only 7 years
                Good point Dave, it will interesting to see what's failed, yes it really should have lasted at least twice that long.

                I may actually have a new OE 3B pump knocking about from when I had mine, I know I have at least a couple of good spare pumps, just can't recall what condition their in or what brand they are. I don't keep scrap parts like pumps as they could get muddled up, I do however keep all old idle rollers etc as they can be useful for making other stuff.

                I'm in the process of sorting through all my crap, I'll see what I can find, it'll be no use whatsoever for my RS2. Assuming 7A's use the same pump?
                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                1994 MTM RS2.
                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                2000 B5 TQS.

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                • K Simmonds
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 7627
                  • Country: Wales

                  #623
                  Originally posted by Tractor Dave
                  Careful. QH quality has dropped considerably in the last few years. I would personally get an SKF direct from their website or a Gates from a reputable source.
                  what anti freeze are you using?
                  This is correct, QH parts do seem to have dropped off in quality or are hit and miss depending on the age of the stock, we've found this at work, their part's were OE spec now I wouldn't be so sure. Can't go wrong with SKF as Dave says and Gate's stuff is also very good, we always use their belt kits unless an owner specifically want's to be bummed by TPS.

                  1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                  1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                  1994 MTM RS2.
                  1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                  2000 B5 TQS.

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                  • Bowie69
                    S2Forum Fiend
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 2675
                    • Country: England

                    #624
                    Originally posted by Tractor Dave
                    Careful. QH quality has dropped considerably in the last few years. I would personally get an SKF direct from their website or a Gates from a reputable source.
                    what anti freeze are you using?
                    I would agree, but SKF don't appear available, nor gates, unless you know where to get one?

                    ​​​​​​​Antifreeze has always been genuine G13, though I am less convinced how good this is after doing a bit of reading.






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                    • Bowie69
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 2675
                      • Country: England

                      #625
                      More searching turned up some SKF pumps, but none seems to be able to deliver for more than a week

                      Same for INA, gates appear non-existant.

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                      • K Simmonds
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 7627
                        • Country: Wales

                        #626
                        In that case I'd I'd go with SKF if you can, I've just been and checked the 'Simmonds Parts Conservatory' and unfortunately I don't have a pump I'd be happy with someone depending on, well at least not in my heap of new boxed parts, could be somewhere else but highly unlikely.
                        1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                        1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                        1994 MTM RS2.
                        1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                        2000 B5 TQS.

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                        • Tractor Dave
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 5984
                          • Country: Wales

                          #627
                          Originally posted by Bowie69

                          I would agree, but SKF don't appear available, nor gates, unless you know where to get one?

                          Antifreeze has always been genuine G13, though I am less convinced how good this is after doing a bit of reading.





                          Direct from SKF
                          https://vehicleaftermarket.skf.com/u...ucts/VKPC81606
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                          Double check it's the right one for your car as I didn't have your index.
                          Last edited by Tractor Dave; 12 March 2022, 09:26. Reason: Add info
                          Nothelle S2 Avant
                          Black Ur project
                          Silver Rs2 Project gone
                          Ocianic Ur project gone
                          S2 Coupe project gone
                          Urs6 plus project gone

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                          • Tractor Dave
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 5984
                            • Country: Wales

                            #628
                            SKF are normally very quick. 2-3 working days.
                            Nothelle S2 Avant
                            Black Ur project
                            Silver Rs2 Project gone
                            Ocianic Ur project gone
                            S2 Coupe project gone
                            Urs6 plus project gone

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                            • Bowie69
                              S2Forum Fiend
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 2675
                              • Country: England

                              #629
                              Thanks Dave, couldnt find their shop for some reason!

                              Have found an SkF pump on amazon, and the seller appears to be SKF direct, so fingers crossed its the same one, plus returns are really easy with amazon....
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                              ​​​​​​​Will compare to the QH one when arrived, and see what's what.

                              ​​​​​​​Thanks for the help, again.

                              ​​​​​​​Kit, thanks for looking, appreciated, hopefully sorted now







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                              • K Simmonds
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 7627
                                • Country: Wales

                                #630
                                No problem at all, happy to try and help...

                                Glad you got something sorted quickly, as you say will interesting to compare with the QH one. I really want to know why the one on the car failed.
                                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                                1994 MTM RS2.
                                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                                2000 B5 TQS.

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