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  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #1306
    once you get it fixed, you should sense better pull as well, as 10.4 is robbing of performance. Then again, its the EGTs that need to stay low as well.

    hope you find the solution soon!

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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #1307
      Originally posted by A80Avant
      so what is the requested lamda then? what have you tuned it to be? 11.5?
      Maybe you would like me to upload the .bin files for the world too?
      Some of this is privileged information, and I am not going to post it open on the forum!

      Considering there are 8 runs of him beating the **** out of the car going through all the gears, I'm pretty sure everything is crazy hot, there is more knock than there is during normal conditions (pulls 1, 2) and the ECU dumps fuel to drop EGT's as the per-cylinder knock threshold has been exceeded. That coupled with the MAF signal being wonky due to no dump valve is exactly what is being seen here.

      Then again he can beat the **** out of his car, and nothing is going to blow up or melt...
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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #1308
        Dmitri, come on,
        you know as well as i do, that this is not that privileged information now. You have been posting far more important and interesting facts for years!

        Besides you have already said it indirectly a few lines above, im just trying to get it straight to understand what the reasoning of the current logs are.

        Reasonable explanations so far, and again Andy, hope you find the problem!

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        • Sonic
          Administrator
          • Jul 2006
          • 5514
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #1309
          Originally posted by A80Avant
          Andy, hope you find the problem!
          So do i... i cant wait to have the car running like it was when it was freshly mapped.

          (I'll just try not to do a full launch whilst in reverse this time!! )
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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #1310
            Hahaha, like in Back to the Future II !

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            • Sonic
              Administrator
              • Jul 2006
              • 5514
              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

              #1311
              Originally posted by A80Avant
              Hahaha, like in Back to the Future II !
              Pretty much.. flames from the tyres and all. It's absolutely brutal.
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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #1312
                Another thing there is, I don't see what the IAT's are doing off of these logs.
                Could be going high too with pulls to 150mph.

                I always map all my customers cars safe. I might lose 10-20 hp in the process, especially on prolonged pulls, but so far nothing has been blown up, and that's worth infinitely more than 10-20 hp.
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                • Sonic
                  Administrator
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 5514
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #1313
                  Originally posted by prj
                  I always map all my customers cars safe. I might lose 10-20 hp in the process, especially on prolonged pulls, but so far nothing has been blown up, and that's worth infinitely more than 10-20 hp.
                  Good to hear
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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #1314
                    that is definitely the best way to map.

                    i would have thought that the IATs would be going high after all these pulls, i assumed as much, which also corresponds with lower timing(which of course is not logged with this gadget) and sometimes high EGTs as well. So if anything Andy you can see that the ECU is doing whatever it can to keep your engine safe. Its telling you though that there is something wrong!

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #1315
                      I've spent quite some time developing and adjusting all the defense mechanisms.
                      Eventually the car will basically shut down.

                      The mixture will level out at low 10's, the timing will level out and the EGT will level out as well. Full throttle proof.

                      Testing it included 4-5 minutes of constant WOT during deep night hours in Moscow...
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                      • Sonic
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 5514
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #1316
                        I'm pretty certain my boost problems are caused by the wastegate after taking it apart on the weekend and testing both the DV and WGFV independently.

                        The piston in the WG certainly seemed to be stuck, which fits perfectly with the different boosting problems i've experienced.

                        I'm going to have a new after-market one fitted this week (likely Tial or Precision) so hopefully everything works after completion!
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                        • Rocco
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 6393
                          • Country: Spain

                          #1317
                          Originally posted by Sonic
                          I'm pretty certain my boost problems are caused by the wastegate after taking it apart on the weekend and testing both the DV and WGFV independently.

                          The piston in the WG certainly seemed to be stuck, which fits perfectly with the different boosting problems i've experienced.

                          I'm going to have a new after-market one fitted this week (likely Tial or Precision) so hopefully everything works after completion!
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                          • Sonic
                            Administrator
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 5514
                            • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                            #1318
                            It's been said by most people, the oddity is that i have already replaced the entire wastegate unit, however both seem to have the same or similar problem with the piston seizing.

                            It was very evident doing some launches, and only producing .5 bar up to ~5.5k, then suddenly producing 1.5 along with having the WGFV plumbed off.

                            I'll leave the decision up to Will @ VRS (nice EVO btw )
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                            • A80Avant
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Sep 2005
                              • 10873
                              • Country: Greece

                              #1319
                              Had similar issues with mine. Not enough clearance in the guide for when the piston expands due to heat will cause this issue. After getting a used replacement all problems where sorted.

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                              • prj
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 6308
                                • Country: Estonia

                                #1320
                                Andy, I might need to tweak your boost a little to go with the aftermarket gate if it behaves differently.

                                But I can do it in 2.5 weeks, so
                                I can also put in my new diag routines in your ECU, and install a switch, so you can get cracking with acquiring the data stream with the raspberry pi.

                                Code:
                                     N75:     0.00 %
                                 N75_REQ:    18.56 %
                                     MAP:    36.08 kPa
                                 MAP_REQ:   123.92 kPa
                                  KNOCK1:     0.00 deg
                                  KNOCK2:     0.00 deg
                                  KNOCK3:     0.00 deg
                                  KNOCK4:     0.00 deg
                                  KNOCK5:     0.00 deg
                                     RPM:  1400.00 RPM
                                    LOAD:    18.00
                                   UBATT:    13.19 V
                                     IAT:    14.70 C
                                     ECT:    93.10 C
                                     TPS:     8.74 deg
                                     IGN:    22.50 deg
                                 IPW_EFF:     0.87 ms
                                    TVUB:     1.15 ms
                                 IPW_RAW:     2.02 ms
                                     VSS:    54.00 kph
                                   MAF_T:     1.00
                                   MAF_C:    59.00
                                 AFR_REQ:    14.70 AFR
                                
                                    Rate:    21.53 hz
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