Mr Simmonds 3B lite project.

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  • 4WheelDrifter
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Oct 2004
    • 5773
    • Country: Devon

    #61
    Originally posted by K Simmonds
    17 Kg's is quite a bit for a fuel tank, and yet more sound deadening!!!! I'll tackle this last bit whilst I'm renewing the fuel lines and up-grading the pump. May even be worth considering an alloy fuel cell instead of that heavy tank.
    Yeah. I was thinking an alloy tank would be a good way to go if you want to save a bit more weight. Although you can see by the amount of sound deadening, the actual tank may not weigh all that much.

    Here's what the boot floor under the tank looks like, to give you an idea of what could go in there. The Coupé boot would be a lot more usable without the fuel tank!



    Excuse the dirt. I don't think it's been cleaned under there for over 18 years.
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    • K Simmonds
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Dec 2007
      • 7627
      • Country: Wales

      #62
      That's quite an interesting shot, I wonder what the large blanking grommet is for.
      1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
      1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
      1994 MTM RS2.
      1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
      2000 B5 TQS.

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #63
        Non quattro fuel pump / tank access?
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • SteveH
          Super Moderator
          • Jul 2003
          • 4460
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #64
          Originally posted by Rusty
          Non quattro fuel pump / tank access?
          Yup, My KV coupe had the fuel pipes in that area
          91 Modded 3B
          14 A6 Avant Black Edition

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          • 4WheelDrifter
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Oct 2004
            • 5773
            • Country: Devon

            #65
            Interesting. I wondered what that was for.

            Also the fuel vapour expansion chamber weighs ~1.5kg. Apart from the float valve in the top, I can't see it serves any useful purpose when venting fuel vapours to the atmosphere.
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            • Error404
              Super Moderator
              • Mar 2007
              • 19789
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #66
              The tank is pretty heavy, I'd say at least 20kg bone dry
              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
              Indigo ABY coupé
              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #67
                More fuel system gubbins to remove... How did fuel tanks used to be vented? Were they vented at all
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • 4WheelDrifter
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 5773
                  • Country: Devon

                  #68
                  In the old days tanks were just vented straight to the atmosphere, usually from a high point on the tank, or through the filler neck. Check out the way bike tanks are vented.
                  So far I have kept the expansion tank because of the float valve in the top. But I suppose you don't really need that. If you don't mind fuel pissing out when your car ends up upside down.

                  Mr Error, you must be weak with your 20kg estimate.
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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #69
                    Leakage could easily be prevented with a U bend and / or a ball valve. Got to be a neat and simple solution...
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
                    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                    • 4WheelDrifter
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 5773
                      • Country: Devon

                      #70
                      It could be as simple as pulling the float valve out of the top of the small tank and mounting that somewhere. Meaning another 1.5kg lost.
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                      • Rusty
                        Super Moderator
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 18953
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #71
                        at this rate we'll be going for sticker badges and carbon fibre cup holders
                        Cheers'en, AndyC
                        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                        • 4WheelDrifter
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 5773
                          • Country: Devon

                          #72
                          S2 badges are metal. They have to go surely!
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                          • K Simmonds
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 7627
                            • Country: Wales

                            #73
                            I've removed my mint original one's anyway as their quite tempting for a certain type of person to pilfer, replaced them with RS2 badges with the Porsche logo removed.
                            1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                            1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                            1994 MTM RS2.
                            1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                            2000 B5 TQS.

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                            • Rusty
                              Super Moderator
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 18953
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #74
                              The car does look nice de-badged but it's hardly obvious so a little flash of red front and rear (or black in my case) is a small hint that it's a little more special than a 2.0E
                              Cheers'en, AndyC
                              1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                              • K Simmonds
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 7627
                                • Country: Wales

                                #75
                                Had a reasonably productive day, things looked like this this afternoon. I'm going to be refitting a lightened half carpet in the front once I'm 100% sure there are no water leaks from the door seals ect.
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                                Last edited by K Simmonds; 28 September 2009, 19:18.
                                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                                1994 MTM RS2.
                                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                                2000 B5 TQS.

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