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  • Funny you mention that. We actually tested 4 blocks in total, all had so much wear at the ring area on the TDC, which even when honed to 81.26mm they still left a small weak area. I didn't want to risk it, so went to 81.51. My own old block was out to 81.3x on all cylinders, but originally with 120k kms was nicely honed to 81.26.

    Maybe UK owners are more 'sporty' drivers!

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    • That is mad, I can't remember the measurements off the top of my head but the 3B I am blueprinting with 195k on the OE bottom end, bores are still well within factory specs, only slightly ovalled. With align honing to fix the ovality they would still only be on bottom size.
      Skirts are worn mind you, so I must use new pistons anyway.

      Perhaps the 3B blocks are a superior material.
      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
      Indigo ABY coupé
      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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      • dont know
        but here is a photo of the best block we managed to hone.

        i didnt want to use it although the machine shop said it should be fine.

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        • some preliminary small tests with the PB on a 4th gear pull, with my foot trying not to go over 0.7-0.8bar but the turbo wanting more and more...

          @ 3000rpm --- 0.3bar--- 280Nm --- 121hp
          @ 3300rpm --- 0.45bar-- 300Nm -- 144hp
          @ 3700rpm --- 0.47bar-- 350Nm -- 187hp
          @ 3880rpm --- 0.68bar-- 381Nm -- 208hp
          @ 5700rpm --- 0.70bar-- 367Nm -- 284hp

          However, the measurements after 5000rpm where actually quite wavy as i was trying to keep the boost stable. So this is just a very preliminary thing, and still on mineral oil, so im not pushing too hard. I have also retarted the timing slightly out of precaution as i havent done any knock listening yet.

          Looks promising to me! Hopefully it should get some nice results!

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          • have you changed the turbo hotside true Vas??

            your cylinder head was ported/polished and upgraded with bigger intake/exhaust valves also?

            and about mapping, the 10€ detcans phones that Marc sells...can be used without the laptop only for "listening" the engine? also without Vems of course... now i have a finnish HESTEC ECU...that came with the competition engine...and i bought the software..."winhestec" ...it seems very different to the Vemstune or Megatune ...

            i only took a small look and it seems to be every maps in 3D

            glad to see you again with your RS2 in the road¡¡
            Last edited by Rocco; 26 September 2011, 22:24.
            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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            • Marc's detcans need the laptop. They dont work without it.

              timing wise, engine sounds ok, and hopefully quite safe. More on the dyno though!

              Yes, head is reworked and has bigger valves, and turbo has smaller hotside and billet wheel.

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              • Originally posted by A80Avant View Post
                Marc's detcans need the laptop. They dont work without it.

                timing wise, engine sounds ok, and hopefully quite safe. More on the dyno though!

                Yes, head is reworked and has bigger valves, and turbo has smaller hotside and billet wheel.
                ok,after finish this---it will enough with the upgrades?

                swap everything into a Competition shell...


                good luck¡¡
                RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                • yes, that would be ideal!
                  but yes, upgrading the engine will finish with the map.

                  its just maintanance thereafter.

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                  • Originally posted by A80Avant View Post
                    yes, that would be ideal!
                    but yes, upgrading the engine will finish with the map.

                    its just maintanance thereafter.
                    Leif-Helge
                    -91 S2 VEMS and Comp Turbo
                    -12 B** 530XD Touring "S2 parts transporter, and daily driver"

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                    • honestly!!

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                      • Originally posted by A80Avant View Post
                        honestly!!
                        Ok,firstly your girlfriend or wife will not believe you,is not possible.

                        and secondly, if it is true,please go out of this forum,we dont want people conformist
                        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                        • no prob!
                          bye!

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                          • Originally posted by A80Avant View Post
                            no prob!
                            bye!
                            you cant believe this yourself

                            welcome again¡
                            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                            • Originally posted by Rocco View Post
                              Ok,firstly your girlfriend or wife will not believe you,is not possible.

                              and secondly, if it is true,please go out of this forum,we dont want people conformist

                              Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                              Indigo ABY coupé
                              Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                              • Through all this difficulties with economies(esp. greek!! haha), i must just be glad i managed to get this engine back online!

                                IF in the future 3-4 years i manage to get back home, start my own practice and £££ is not an issue, then yes, another project car will be likely in the lines of either a sporty B4 or a sport quattro replica. However, if ££ is not an issue, ill be keeping the rs2 as is!

                                anyhow, EV14 are now nicely mapped on the table up to 1bar. Had to adjust fueling settings quite a bit but its ok now.

                                Unfortunately i havent had the chance of getting the AC sorted, and i think ill just get a specialist to have a look, who knows what they are doing...

                                tried 1bar yesterday, and turbo is just waking up on that region!!

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