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  • Billman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #316
    What ECU was he running?
    Go Holset or Go RS4

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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #317
      Vems.
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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #318
        hmmmm

        @Ruffiano
        do you like to share your config file?
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • Billman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2004
          • 4129

          #319
          It seems that this happened due to very lean conditions. The timing map looks ultra safe.
          Last edited by Billman; 8 December 2011, 19:50.
          Go Holset or Go RS4

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          • A80Avant
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Sep 2005
            • 10873
            • Country: Greece

            #320
            tough mate,

            check the map before making any assumptions about ECU Dmitri...
            Last edited by A80Avant; 8 December 2011, 19:56.

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            • Rocco
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Aug 2007
              • 6393
              • Country: Spain

              #321
              Originally posted by Billman
              It seems that this happened due to very lean conditions. The timing map looks ultra safe.
              who mapped it then? what a bad luck..
              RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
              BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
              LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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              • prj
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Mar 2010
                • 6308
                • Country: Estonia

                #322
                Originally posted by A80Avant
                tough mate,

                check the map before making any assumptions about ECU Dmitri...
                Not making any assumptions about ecu. Ecu is just a calculator, I did not blame ecu for this.
                I just said engine went boom due to knock or alternatively there was a mechanical fault due to possibly mistakes made in the engine build.
                Stuff like that does not happen at 600nm with stock rods with everything running correctly, as I have been able to prove many times. This turbo is less powerful than even a rs2 turbo. How often do you see such engine failure on chipped rs2s?
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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #323
                  knock control feedback is not all you need assuming that there wasnt a mechanical fault.

                  if this was down to knock, it could have still been avoided if the map was properly done. (ie so that there no knock in the first place)

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                  • prj
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 6308
                    • Country: Estonia

                    #324
                    Again, I did not blame this on purely knock control.

                    Here is my original post:
                    Originally posted by prj
                    That's not rods, that's knock.
                    Exactly what happens when you have no knock feedback at all and run too much timing/boost.
                    At no stage did I say "VEMS blew up the engine". Don't read into things too much
                    Possibly because it happened when cold, the map was not correct for cold conditions, and caused an excessive leaning of the fuel mixture for example... or injectors ran out, or whatever.
                    A million different reasons.

                    My point was to say, that 600nm does not cause a hole in the block.
                    I have seen holes in blocks with stock turbo also plenty of times now, but it is not because of some imaginary torque number.
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                    • A80Avant
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                      • Sep 2005
                      • 10873
                      • Country: Greece

                      #325
                      sure, but i know you a little more than you think, and you have to admit that you did leave your hint there.

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                      • Jamo
                        Retired OG Mod
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 21750
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #326
                        Where's the map link out of interest? Dunno about this argument going on here it failed its getting rebuilt end of IMO
                        Only way to know what happened is to take it apart and analyse
                        Couldn't give a hoot what ecu it was

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                        • prj
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6308
                          • Country: Estonia

                          #327
                          Originally posted by A80Avant
                          sure, but i know you a little more than you think, and you have to admit that you did leave your hint there.
                          I did not, and I have nothing to admit.
                          I said uncontrolled knock likely happened in combustion chamber, which likely was out of spec for the given connecting rods, and that you are not supposed to get holes in the block just because you are running 600nm on the stock connecting rods.

                          You are really reading into it too much. I have seen plenty of these engine's go boom on plenty of different ECU's.

                          Anyway, new block -> H-rods -> detcans on ears when driving for some time.
                          If this was not caused due to mechanical errors, then the knock that caused it with H-rods fitted will be enough to destroy the bearings. The weakest part always lets go.
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                          • Ruffiano
                            S2Forum Extremist
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 1458
                            • Home: Italy Current: United States

                            #328
                            Originally posted by prj
                            This turbo is less powerful than even a rs2 turbo. How often do you see such engine failure on chipped rs2s?
                            how many rs2 turbos are making 360 ftlbs of torque at the wheels? which is right around 450ctq?

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #329
                              Originally posted by Ruffiano
                              how many rs2 turbos are making 360 ftlbs of torque at the wheels? which is right around 450ctq?
                              610nm a few I would say if they are running 1.9 bar chips

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                              • Ruffiano
                                S2Forum Extremist
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 1458
                                • Home: Italy Current: United States

                                #330
                                Originally posted by Jamo
                                Where's the map link out of interest?
                                if anyone is interested.

                                remove the .txt from the files
                                Attached Files

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