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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #211
    I'll work out your CR later and let you know.
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    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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    • Billman
      S2Forum Freak
      • Nov 2004
      • 4129

      #212
      I found a calculator and calculated the following:

      the CR should be 8.51:1

      with the 0.5 more - 0.1 (deck skimmed) then we have approx 8.3:1

      The head is going to be skimmed also min. 0.1 then we go to 8.35:1

      Since i am going to run big boost :-p i think i can live with this CR!
      Go Holset or Go RS4

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #213
        can you skim the head even more?

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        • Billman
          S2Forum Freak
          • Nov 2004
          • 4129

          #214
          Its never been skimmed, i skimmed the block deck only!
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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #215
            Originally posted by Billman
            I found a calculator and calculated the following:

            the CR should be 8.51:1

            with the 0.5 more - 0.1 (deck skimmed) then we have approx 8.3:1

            The head is going to be skimmed also min. 0.1 then we go to 8.35:1

            Since i am going to run big boost :-p i think i can live with this CR!
            I got 8.295:1
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            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #216
              Originally posted by AndyP
              I got 8.295:1
              OK, i will run 2,5 bar to compensate that! :-p


              The machine shop did it wrong and i will have a word with them but it is not going to bother me much. I was from the beginning betwwen 8:1 and 8.5:1....now they gave me the middle!

              Mark had 8:1 ?
              Go Holset or Go RS4

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              • Billman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2004
                • 4129

                #217
                Today i removed the head and block of my old engine to see what caused the higher oil fumes in the catchtank and bad running of cyl 3!

                I found a blown head gasket and these defects (as if something etched the metal) on the head and piston top (same side). Is this caused from detonation? I mean the gasket and then due to higher heat (gasses from cyl 4->5) i had detonation or he other way round?

                pls comment:
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                • Dutch_RsBlueS2
                  S2Forum Addict
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 285
                  • Country: Netherlands

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Billman


                  Is this caused from detonation?


                  pls comment:
                  YES !

                  do you run on E85? maybe running lean on 1 cyl?

                  Look excactly the same as my last s2 engine, the JE`s were fried and the squish area in the head fooked like this.

                  This was on original motronic. with custom mapping.

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                  • Billman
                    S2Forum Freak
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 4129

                    #219
                    the question is: detonation caused the gasket to blow or the blown gasket caused detonation? When i removed the gasket there was also tiny cracks between the other cylinders! The engine has 210.000 (i believe)!

                    car runed on gasoline. the defects are on cyl 3 only!
                    Last edited by Billman; 20 March 2010, 19:40.
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                    • quattro84
                      S2Forum Maniac
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 947
                      • Country: Netherlands

                      #220
                      Engine knock caused this damage to headgasket and engine, not the other way round.
                      Perhaps injector #3 was faulty, the head chamber & exhaust valves aren't brownish like the others but more black and scorned, and the right # 3 exhaust valve seems like it's bent/not closing on the valve seat.

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #221
                        but if the injector was faulty then shouldn't there be a whitish color and not black? can it be that the valves dint open right due to bad tappet and that caused the temps to rise-> cause detonation-> blown gasket?
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • Billman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4129

                          #222
                          By further inspection of the gasket i noticed that the gasket had small crack between all cylinder that lead me to believe that due to the nature of it and the years of function (15 years old and at least 10 years chipped rs2 setup and then Holset) the gasket died and the rest is history!
                          Go Holset or Go RS4

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                          • Billman
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 4129

                            #223
                            Should I make a spacer for the oil pickup pipe because of the girdle or is it not so crousial? Mark or Doug did one but his girdle was 10mm. Mine is 6mm and I am not going to use the extra pan and gasket on the sump so the difference o stock rs2 should be at about 3 mm!
                            Last edited by Billman; 27 March 2010, 18:27.
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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #224
                              Today I tried to put the new engine in and it was a PITA!! I had a crane to hold the engine but something didn't let the engine and gearbox come together! They had approx 1.5cm to come! Disk seems centered according to the allignment tool! Any ideas?

                              Together win this I pressed the clutch pedal and fuid came out from the front! If I push it simply in again is it ok? Should I check something there or should I only bleed the clutch when finally the engine goes in?
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                              • AndyP
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6049
                                • Country: England

                                #225
                                You need to bleed the clutch when the engine is in, if you press the peddle when there is no clutch arm for it to press, the piston will pop out the end. I'm not sure that you can just push it back in if you've done this.
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                                1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                                1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                                1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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