My 3B Coupe project - Total rebuild

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  • AndyP
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Feb 2004
    • 6049
    • Country: England

    #241
    Originally posted by Error404
    what are the chances?
    Is the bore ok?
    Not sure, there is quite a lot of debris there and it's making some nasty noises when I try to turn it over so I'm leaving it until I can get the sump off and clean it out a bit.

    Is the broken valve cause or effect do you think?
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    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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    • Error404
      Super Moderator
      • Mar 2007
      • 19789
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #242
      maybe it was fractured before you put it in
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      • Jamo
        Retired OG Mod
        • Mar 2004
        • 21750
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #243
        Dropped valve definately the cause I woulds say, either it got stuck or the valve seat / stem had gone or just cracked and it dropped off under pressure

        Sh*t!!!! rebuild rebuild, need to check to see if the bores are O.K, touch wood, new piston and ring , new head though

        what are the other pistons like
        Last edited by Jamo; 7 September 2010, 22:23.

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        • AndyP
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Feb 2004
          • 6049
          • Country: England

          #244
          Originally posted by Jamo
          Dropped valve definately the cause I woulds say, either it got stuck or the valve seat / stem had gone or just cracked and it dropped off under pressure

          Sh*t!!!! rebuild rebuild, need to check to see if the bores are O.K, touch wood, new piston and ring , new head though

          what are the other pistons like
          Other pistons appear untouched, not sure about the bore though, with the amount of shrapnel flying around in there I'm not holding my breath.

          Already sorted a new head
          Last edited by Jamo; 7 September 2010, 22:23.
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          1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
          1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
          1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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          • newsh
            S2Forum Obsessed
            • Aug 2003
            • 16226
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #245
            Holy crapoli Thats nasty.


            Originally posted by AndyP

            I'm suprisingly clam actually

            It hasn't even affected your spelling..

            S2 Coupe 3B Project


            Ur quattro restoration

            S2 Avant

            Boost is the new rock and roll!
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            • twoqu
              S2Forum Possessed
              • Sep 2003
              • 3103

              #246
              My 5 pot tdi died a similar death. Same cylinder as well!
              Similiar damage with the stem being driven throught the piston. It also bent the rod and the tdi rod is pretty stout.
              Only thing I could see in the post mortem was a cracked crankshaft pulley key. All the other cylinders/valve train were perfect. I think you have a steel replacement though!

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              • GT500
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Jun 2006
                • 2181
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #247
                balls! o the fun of engines!

                Did you mark where the timing was belt wise before taking it off? just to be able to check it was still timed up when you can turn it.
                Most dropped valves i've seen look like a valve failure but usualy have reason to have let go. ANy tapping sounds before it went?
                Rob..
                94 RS2 Noggy,LHD,MTM map,18"cup 1s,245/35/18,Bilsteins,RS2 H&Rs,Cup splitter.
                87 UR 20v ABY
                97 S6 Avant
                96 A6 C4 2.5 TDI quattro avant,Ming,Wietec/eibach,chipped
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                • denniselbows
                  S2Forum Maniac
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 740
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #248
                  the valve that has broke by any chance is it the same one as the hydraulic tappet you had trubble with ?
                  never set your expectations to high that way you are never disapointed

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                  • Tonks4x4
                    Retired OG Mod
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 3062
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #249
                    Originally posted by AndyP
                    I can't see this being fixed for ADI


                    Is that debris on the top of the other pistons or is it detonation marks?
                    Audi Nut!!!

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                    • Rocco
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6393
                      • Country: Spain

                      #250
                      WTF it is??

                      i am very sorry for you Andy...your long weekends work.....


                      what happend exactly?? some pulley was destroyed??

                      good luck with it again,take it hard¡¡
                      Last edited by Rocco; 9 September 2010, 21:41.
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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #251
                        Originally posted by denniselbows
                        the valve that has broke by any chance is it the same one as the hydraulic tappet you had trubble with ?
                        The whole set of tappets were changed for the ones from my 3B engine. This was to try and cure a tappety noise it had from day 1. The tappets made no difference and now looking at the pistons I'm beginning to wonder if the re-bore was done right and what I was hearing was piston slap.
                        sigpic
                        1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                        1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                        • AndyP
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 6049
                          • Country: England

                          #252
                          Originally posted by Tonks4x4
                          Is that debris on the top of the other pistons or is it detonation marks?
                          It's debris, the other pistons appear unmarked.
                          sigpic
                          1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                          1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                          1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                          • AndyP
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6049
                            • Country: England

                            #253
                            The engine is now back out of the car and on the stand, I'll start stripping it tonight.
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                            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #254
                              Originally posted by AndyP
                              The whole set of tappets were changed for the ones from my 3B engine. This was to try and cure a tappety noise it had from day 1. The tappets made no difference and now looking at the pistons I'm beginning to wonder if the re-bore was done right and what I was hearing was piston slap.
                              Who did the rebore?

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                              • AndyP
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Feb 2004
                                • 6049
                                • Country: England

                                #255
                                Originally posted by Jamo
                                Who did the rebore?
                                A local engine specialist. I'm taking it to somebody with a bit more I5 experiance this time.
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                                1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                                1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                                1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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