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  • Twenny Benson
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    • Jan 2011
    • 278
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #301
    Hey Andy I just scanned through this entire thread quickly, I will read it a bit more in depth tomorrow at work lol. Shame you also lost the motor first time around as well, I know how that feels, it must be something to do with the name Andy! It's all worth it in the end though fella, when these garretts spool there insane.

    Your motor looks the dogs danglies mate, good work. I can feel a race coming on sometime this year, get it mapped and practice your launches then bring it on
    2000 B5 A4 Quattro Sport ~ 2.0 20V GT30R ~ Gone
    1993 S2 ABY Coupe ~ Gone
    1989 2.2E Coupe ~ Gone

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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #302
      Originally posted by Error404
      Don't forget Jamo drives Miss Daisy

      I suppose you could skim a couple thou off the pump housing and the block face to true it all up? I'm sure the water pump gasket would benefit too.
      Might do that when I build my engine up
      Lol thanks!

      No oil issues at all in normal or motorway driving never got temp above 100c

      I'm running 10W50 oil

      Congrats been away so long forgot the problems with this build.

      I'll be interested to see what your car drives like I have long considered going to the smaller 3071r turbo with the stroker setup.

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #303
        i doubt that it would be much better than your choice Jamo. I tend to think now that even for the 2.2 the .82AR is very good, so for a stroker it would be ideal, even better than the .63AR.

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        • AndyP
          S2Forum Zealot
          • Feb 2004
          • 6049
          • Country: England

          #304
          Originally posted by Jamo
          Lol thanks!

          No oil issues at all in normal or motorway driving never got temp above 100c

          I'm running 10W50 oil

          Congrats been away so long forgot the problems with this build.

          I'll be interested to see what your car drives like I have long considered going to the smaller 3071r turbo with the stroker setup.
          You're using the ABY cooler, which is bigger than the 3B. I now have a 13row cooler that I'm going to try fitting this weekend.

          Also might have found the issue with oil pressure, see Billmans 'Oil pressure issues' thread. It seems the Tdi oil squirters are much bigger than the 3B/ABY ones. I'll try swapping to my 3B squirters and also switch to 10W50 Fuchs oil and see what happens.

          Have you though of trying the new GTX turbos?
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          1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
          1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
          1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #305
            Ah yes forgot about that, I was worried about the size of the oil cooler but decided to try the ABY. It works fine, when it fails I'll uprate it to a mocal etc

            I'll have a look, I replaced all my squirters with news ones as I lost the ones originally in the block during the build then found them 3 weeks later, typical. I cant remember if I bought TDI or ABY ones though.

            The GTX turbos look sexy but to be honest it would be cheaper to have my 3076r remade to a 3071r it's only the compressor cover and the compressor wheel that is different, the centre is the same between the two. I can't do it yet though got to get at least one dyno run out of the 3076r

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            • AndyP
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Feb 2004
              • 6049
              • Country: England

              #306
              Can you remember how much the new ones were? Am I in for a shock??
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              1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
              1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
              1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #307
                It's not that bad think it cost ÂŁ60 for all 5 but that was 3 3 1/2 years ago

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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #308
                  heard that GTX turbos although make higher power than the GT equivalents, they do not spool faster.

                  the only solution for faster spool and at least equal power are the HTA options. ie a HTA 3076 .82AR will outspool the GT3076 and produce the same power.

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                  • AndyP
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6049
                    • Country: England

                    #309
                    Originally posted by Jamo
                    It's not that bad think it cost ÂŁ60 for all 5 but that was 3 3 1/2 years ago
                    On back order from Audi
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                    1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                    1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                    1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                    • Error404
                      Super Moderator
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 19789
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #310
                      I've got a set in a 7A block you are welcome to if you want Andy?
                      Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                      Indigo ABY coupé
                      Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #311
                        If I'm going to all the hassle of removing the sump I really want to fit new ones. If all else fails I can use the ones from my old 3B lump.

                        Thanks for the offer anyway
                        sigpic
                        1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                        1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                        • Error404
                          Super Moderator
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 19789
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #312
                          NPs
                          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                          Indigo ABY coupé
                          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                          • Jamo
                            Retired OG Mod
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 21750
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #313
                            Bring me up to speed Andy what oil pressure are you seeing?

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                            • AndyP
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6049
                              • Country: England

                              #314
                              Originally posted by Jamo
                              Bring me up to speed Andy what oil pressure are you seeing?
                              The accepted norm seems to be between 2 and 5bar when hot. I'm only getting 1 to 4bar when hot. See Billmans thread 'Oil pressure issues' for more details, I've got pretty much the same as he has.
                              sigpic
                              1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                              1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                              1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                              • cooperquattro
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Jan 2011
                                • 815
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #315
                                Originally posted by AndyP
                                A local engine specialist. I'm taking it to somebody with a bit more I5 experiance this time.
                                rotherham engine services??

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