My 3B Coupe project - Total rebuild

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  • Jamo
    Retired OG Mod
    • Mar 2004
    • 21750
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #331
    1.5 bar?

    Way to low for a 3071 you can check with other 3071 owners

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    • AndyP
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Feb 2004
      • 6049
      • Country: England

      #332
      Too low for what? I always thought that 400bhp was about the limit for the MAF, according to prj anyway. If you say engines with my spec have done 430-480bhp on 1.85bar, then I should safe at 1.5bar right?
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      1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
      1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
      1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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      • A80Avant
        S2Forum Obsessed
        • Sep 2005
        • 10873
        • Country: Greece

        #333
        id say i did about 420 with vems on the 3071 like yours. Since you have a stroker, it might be able to make a bit more anyway, but i did it with 2.1bar overboost and 1.8 at the redline.

        while i had the motronic i had 1.9 to 1.7bar so i presume i would have made around 390-400hp (with the maf working)

        i dont know if 1.5 though will get you surely to 400hp eventhough being a stroker.

        i dont remember, is the cyl head ported?

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        • Jamo
          Retired OG Mod
          • Mar 2004
          • 21750
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #334
          Originally posted by AndyP
          Too low for what? I always thought that 400bhp was about the limit for the MAF, according to prj anyway. If you say engines with my spec have done 430-480bhp on 1.85bar, then I should safe at 1.5bar right?
          400 bhp has been broken with the maf since 2003 granted it uses method where the maf signal is maxxed out but Mihnea has been doing such for years so has Mark with DJ Jones car

          You should be able to on the stroker to safely run 1.7-1.8 bar and make 450+ bhp

          Strokers on that turbo with .82 hotside should easily push 450

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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #335
            Originally posted by A80Avant
            id say i did about 420 with vems on the 3071 like yours. Since you have a stroker, it might be able to make a bit more anyway, but i did it with 2.1bar overboost and 1.8 at the redline.

            while i had the motronic i had 1.9 to 1.7bar so i presume i would have made around 390-400hp (with the maf working)

            i dont know if 1.5 though will get you surely to 400hp eventhough being a stroker.

            i dont remember, is the cyl head ported?
            Yes the head is ported by JP.
            sigpic
            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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            • AndyP
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Feb 2004
              • 6049
              • Country: England

              #336
              Originally posted by Jamo
              400 bhp has been broken with the maf since 2003 granted it uses method where the maf signal is maxxed out but Mihnea has been doing such for years so has Mark with DJ Jones car

              You should be able to on the stroker to safely run 1.7-1.8 bar and make 450+ bhp

              Strokers on that turbo with .82 hotside should easily push 450
              Cool, the more the merrier

              I've always said this wasn't about chasing numbers though, I just want it to drive like a std S2, but be much faster.
              sigpic
              1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
              1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
              1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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              • AndyP
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Feb 2004
                • 6049
                • Country: England

                #337
                This is the bigger oil cooler I've just fitted







                I've mounted it on the std brkt, but it could do with lifting slightly as it rubbing on the bumper. Just been out for a test run but there are too many tourists plodding around my test route to get it opened up properly.
                sigpic
                1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                • Jamo
                  Retired OG Mod
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 21750
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #338
                  Pattern those brackets! nice work

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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #339
                    yes my oil cooler is definitelly bigger than that, which is why it didnt fit on the original position without heavy modifying...

                    With the head ported andy i would expect much higher numbers. I hear a lot of gains are made that way. (which is why im getting me one of those! hehe)

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                    • terrybullwon
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 8782
                      • Country: England

                      #340
                      Steve's car is mapped by Mark and that pulled something like 600hp with stock maf. Goes well so I am told!

                      Good luck with the mapping Andy !
                      Chef

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                      • AndyP
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Feb 2004
                        • 6049
                        • Country: England

                        #341
                        Originally posted by terrybullwon
                        Steve's car is mapped by Mark and that pulled something like 600hp with stock maf. Goes well so I am told!

                        Good luck with the mapping Andy !
                        Steve who?
                        sigpic
                        1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                        1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                        1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                        • Jamo
                          Retired OG Mod
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 21750
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #342
                          Red S2 in the midlands its a monster car but not well known outside a few select members. Aelred and Repo know it well

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                          • AndyP
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6049
                            • Country: England

                            #343
                            Originally posted by Jamo
                            Red S2 in the midlands its a monster car but not well known outside a few select members. Aelred and Repo know it well
                            A local car for local people eh

                            Was it at Castle Combe for Audi Driver last year?
                            sigpic
                            1991 Audi S2 3B - 2.5 Stroker engine
                            1997 A6 2.5TDi quattro avant - C4
                            1976 RD250E / 350LC cafe racer

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                            • martinjs
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3205
                              • Country: England

                              #344
                              This one isnt it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpqpT7F_-k

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                              • prj
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 6308
                                • Country: Estonia

                                #345
                                You might as well disconnect the MAF and map alpha-n.
                                MAF is useless past 350 hp, mapping 250 hp to the last cell is not "cool" it's stupid.
                                I can do that too, it still won't change the fact that it's bad for your motor - so I don't do it.

                                It's like running your car on VEMS with a 250 kpa MAP when you are boosting over 2 bar.
                                See if that's a good idea.
                                http://tuner.ee - http://www.facebook.com/tuner.ee

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