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  • Rocco
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Aug 2007
    • 6393
    • Country: Spain

    #1276
    Originally posted by A80Avant
    Wastegate stuck open? The car is sitting on cold weather and if it had been stuck open that would mean with the added heat from the engine gasses it would make things even worse. By the way, that is something that you can easily inspect. The piston would be kept up high and you would not be able to move back down unless you used brute force.

    I had my wastegate stuck intermittently but only when warm engine which the ss piston would expand and catch the guide as the spring wouldn't allow any movement. In the end it has stayed in the fully open position.
    That's true

    Originally posted by prj
    I don't think so.
    And I have seen plenty "refurbished" wastegates where the tolerances were too tight, so they seized when they got hot.

    Possible if you do the things wrong

    And I was talking about common very used and worn wastegates like the 99%. They could works in the beginning but they fails very soon once you start boosting hard.
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    • prj
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2010
      • 6308
      • Country: Estonia

      #1277
      Originally posted by Rocco
      And I was talking about common very used and worn wastegates like the 99%. They could works in the beginning but they fails very soon once you start boosting hard.
      You have some interesting statistics, but out of the cars I have worked on so far few have had WG issues.
      I also don't really see how the amount of boost pressure you run affects the wastegate wear.
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      • Rocco
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Aug 2007
        • 6393
        • Country: Spain

        #1278
        I know is not amount of boost I only know that most of the cars I have seen has had wastegate problems once they removed stock turbo.

        Maybe because the new boost addiction because the upgrade.


        I hope Andy can fix it the cheapest as possible as I did myself with the wastegate spacer inside the spring. Don't you remember?
        RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
        BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
        LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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        • Sonic
          Administrator
          • Jul 2006
          • 5514
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #1279
          Turns out it was a split inlet hose between the intercooler and the inlet manifold, specifically on the ISV branch of the hose.

          An exhaust gasket has also burnt out, which explains the louder-than-normal noise i was hearing from the engine bay

          I've yet to see if fixing these problems has solved the original boosting issue on gear change but will see when i pick the car up from VRS.
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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #1280
            Hope the replacement parts fix it up for you

            I had the exhaust manifold come loose and leak past the gasket. The problem was the studs had loosened with vibration, rather than the new lock nuts...
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • Sonic
              Administrator
              • Jul 2006
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              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

              #1281
              Carsten has kindly sent me a replacement hose for the car and in the meantime Will has fixed it up and replaced the gasket, so the car is at least holding boost again now!

              The previous boost issues are still occurring however, namely intermittent lag particularly noticeable after changing gears.

              I've logged some data from Zeitronix which seems to show some pretty interesting stuff...



















              Dmitri is over in a few weeks, so hopefully some of this can be cleared up then.
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              • Rocco
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Aug 2007
                • 6393
                • Country: Spain

                #1282
                very good Andy,now you must be happy again

                Zeitronix stuff will get you crazy
                RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                • prj
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6308
                  • Country: Estonia

                  #1283
                  Boost seems a bit lazy indeed sometimes.
                  It's odd though, because on a long pull it's fine.

                  I need to log the N75 duty cycle off of the ECU and see what's going on.
                  Haven't really seen such behavior before, as usually boost corresponds quite well to a certain WGFV duty.
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                  • A80Avant
                    S2Forum Obsessed
                    • Sep 2005
                    • 10873
                    • Country: Greece

                    #1284
                    Isn't the mixture a bit too rich for the higher revs? Where is the EGT sensor located?

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                    • prj
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6308
                      • Country: Estonia

                      #1285
                      Looks a bit rich, but depends also where the WBO2 is located...
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                      • Sonic
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2006
                        • 5514
                        • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                        #1286
                        The wb O2 sensor is very close to the nb O2 just after the first bend in the down pipe.

                        Also for all the logs above the dv is blocked off.
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                        • Sonic
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 5514
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                          #1287
                          Or is that the egt after the bend.. Hmm will have to check!

                          I thing both O2 sensors are next to each other.
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                          • Rocco
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 6393
                            • Country: Spain

                            #1288
                            Originally posted by Sonic

                            Also for all the logs above the dv is blocked off.
                            did you enjoy the sound?
                            RED Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 16 of 250
                            BLACK Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI TME nº 189 of 250
                            LWB Audi Sport Quattro project

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                            • prj
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6308
                              • Country: Estonia

                              #1289
                              If the DV is blocked off that explains the rich mixture.
                              The air gets pushed back out through the MAF as you slam shut the throttle, and then back into it, and this results in higher MAF readings....

                              It can also result in the ECU thinking that there is an overboost condition because the pressure ramps very quickly... would be nice if the DV would be put back in place.
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                              • Sonic
                                Administrator
                                • Jul 2006
                                • 5514
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                                #1290
                                Will was doing some testing with it plumbed out, but I shall reconnect it an relog.
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