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  • A80Avant
    S2Forum Obsessed
    • Sep 2005
    • 10873
    • Country: Greece

    #571
    there is also another 1 way valve, the black/yellow one going to the vaccum tree in case that is broken.

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    • Fat Audi 80
      Super Moderator
      • Jan 2004
      • 10547
      • Country: England

      #572
      Don't take this the wrong way Andy, but I can't help feeling something has been put back together wrong or is missing. I do hope you find the solution though as your car is going to be a monster!
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      • prj
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2010
        • 6308
        • Country: Estonia

        #573
        Make sure your fuel pressure is not too high as well.
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        • Ross
          S2Forum Possessed
          • Aug 2005
          • 3399
          • Country: England

          #574
          Steve - as I've been banging on about in this thread, it felt to me there's a more serious issue than boost leaks. It's still niggling me that the breather system was getting pressurised when it's all blanked off on the intake side. Surely a cylinder should hold pressure at 0.7bar without leaking excessively. I wasn't sure but from others comments it sounds like there should be no valve overlap at all, which means if there is the timing is out.

          Dmitri - fuel pressure is niggling me too. It would explain the fuelling issue. I wish I had swapped my FPR even though its' 3.8bar, just to check it. I actually think at this stage, the over-fuelling and boost issue are probably not related. Of course I could be wrong but I suspect if fuelling is sorted, it will probably still not make boost. Unless there is anything ECU wise that would pull back boost if it runs too rich?
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          • AndyP
            S2Forum Zealot
            • Feb 2004
            • 6049
            • Country: England

            #575
            I had a similar issue on mine when it went for mapping. It turned out that the seals on the turbo were shot and boost was leaking into the CHRA and down the oil return line into the sump. Try unbolting the oil reurn line and testing again, you'll hear the air leaking out of the line if you have the same issue. This is how I found it on mine, but we used smoke, so it was really obvious what was happening.
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            • Billman
              S2Forum Freak
              • Nov 2004
              • 4129

              #576
              Hi, I didn't read everything through but did you try to pressurize the system with the intake blocked at the throttle body? If you are pressurizing through the TB then air can escape also through the valves to the top cover and through overlapping to the EM. That way you will never see more than a certain amount or pressure because depending on the equipment you can not flow that much air at higher pressure.
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              • Lloyd
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Apr 2006
                • 1559
                • Home: Wales Current: England

                #577
                Originally posted by Sonic
                Anywhere i can get this done before saturday?
                Perfect Touch is a Prestige and Performance car servicing and diagnostics specialist with state-of-the-art tools and manufacturer approved servicing.


                these guys did a leak down test on my car and I can recommend them.
                Please ask them to torque the plugs to 30nm though, not BFT!
                RS2+ (now sold...)

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                • Lloyd
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1559
                  • Home: Wales Current: England

                  #578
                  Originally posted by Fat Audi 80
                  Don't take this the wrong way Andy, but I can't help feeling something has been put back together wrong or is missing. I do hope you find the solution though as your car is going to be a monster!
                  Hmmm, perhaps a dodgy gasket?
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                  • Rusty
                    Super Moderator
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 18953
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #579
                    It'll be something innocuous that's rather important and difficult to find or test...

                    Breather system pressurisation is a clue IMO. I'd blank it all off and run to atmopsphere to remove it from the equation - it's only the inlet plug and IM feed that need to be blocked and you'll be fine running to atmosphere for a few miles' testing.
                    Cheers'en, AndyC
                    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                    • djh
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 1622
                      • Home: United States Current: United Kingdom

                      #580
                      What fpr is fitted? stock or 7a

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                      • dkw_dude
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 555
                        • Country: Norway

                        #581
                        Originally posted by Rusty
                        Sorry if this has been mentioned but I'm too lazy to re-read it all.

                        dump valve? This sounds like it could be the only thing left.

                        Make sure that you fit a known working one and it's the correct way araound and has the pressure line to the top of it!

                        Other thing was the breather system connection to the N80 pipework (mentioned above). The 1-way valve is rather important, as it stops all your boost peeing out of the 8mm connection!
                        +1 on this. You can even remove dv and bung the connections for a test drive.
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                        • Sonic
                          Administrator
                          • Jul 2006
                          • 5514
                          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                          #582
                          I think FPR and WGFV are the next things to try... does anybody have a known-working 4 bar FPR or WGFV spare that i can try?
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                          • prj
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6308
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #583
                            Your PCV valve is probably shot.
                            The one that is a one way valve at the manifold... replace it.

                            Your intake MUST hold pressure.
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                            • Jamo
                              Retired OG Mod
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 21750
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #584
                              Sonic shouldn't have a PCV if he's running the catch tank setup from Rusty / JP

                              I haven't been through the whole thread but which catch tank setup are you running??

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                              • Rusty
                                Super Moderator
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 18953
                                • Country: United Kingdom

                                #585
                                It's not mine, it's based on JP's recommendation AFAIK - looks like a swirl and catch setup from the pictures and conversation I've had with Andy.

                                The problem area is the N80 & 1 way valve setup that attaches to the IM. If the vacuum to the IM is removed then you can ditch the PCV valve, if you want it all to work as stock, then it all needs to be designed to replicate the OE system, just with more volume and areas to catch the oil vapour and suspendd droplets.

                                For testing, I'd remove all links from the breather to the IM and inlet hose and vent it to atmosphere. When it's all sorted, you can then make sure all the connections are spot on.
                                Cheers'en, AndyC
                                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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