Mr Simmonds 3B lite project.

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  • Rusty
    Super Moderator
    • Jun 2004
    • 18953
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #91
    I have reached the same conclusion! Get an early coupe and an early S4, get the radiators in the boot (like Wab) and run the AAN inlet. Should see better weight distribution and decent power potential. Simple... unfortunately space, energy and money are all things I don't have I do have a sunroof ABY though, hard life isn't it
    Cheers'en, AndyC
    1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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    • S2central.net
      Retired OG Mod
      • Jul 2003
      • 16590
      • Country: Northern Ireland

      #92
      Spooky - been mulling my options and numbers over the weekend and came to same conclusion about the sunroof...

      I also started thinking about removing the ABS because of weight, but then with duties on the road as well as fun off it - I did wonder if it was worth the risk. I'll bet there would be some insurance hassles...

      "Any modifications sir ?"

      "No, except I removed the ABS"

      "<click..... burrrrrrrrrrrrrrr>"
      Paul Nugent
      Webmaster http://S2central.net
      Administrator http://S2forum.com

      1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
      2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
      2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

      Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

      There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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      • Rusty
        Super Moderator
        • Jun 2004
        • 18953
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #93
        The ABS isn't that much of an issue and it does provide additional safety on the road, not that 225 wide top of the range tyres are renowned for their lack of grip It's the rears that lock up anyway . While we're discussing safety, I really feel the need for a traction control or ESP setup to make the car safer too
        Cheers'en, AndyC
        1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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        • S2central.net
          Retired OG Mod
          • Jul 2003
          • 16590
          • Country: Northern Ireland

          #94
          I'm caught in the wannabe purist trap - having to compromise things for the road makes all decisions harder as you are thinking about two very different applications. But then I come back to it just being a more 'fun' car on the road - noisier, lighter, better handling essentially so its still a road car really.

          In saying all that - I drove for donkeys years before I had ABS.
          Paul Nugent
          Webmaster http://S2central.net
          Administrator http://S2forum.com

          1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
          2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
          2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

          Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

          There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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          • Rusty
            Super Moderator
            • Jun 2004
            • 18953
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #95
            Get an exhaust cutout valve, same as used on modern supercars, means you can have quiet car for cruising and LOUD for fun!
            Cheers'en, AndyC
            1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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            • S2central.net
              Retired OG Mod
              • Jul 2003
              • 16590
              • Country: Northern Ireland

              #96
              Its on the list old chap
              Paul Nugent
              Webmaster http://S2central.net
              Administrator http://S2forum.com

              1994 S2 Coupe ABY - aka Project Lazarus
              2001 A6 allroad 2.5TDi - family tank
              2003 S4 Avant 4.2 V8 - daily burble

              Purveyor of HomeFries and Exclusive agent for Samco hose kits (S2/RS2)

              There are only 10 kinds of people that understand binary - those that do, and those that don't

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              • Rusty
                Super Moderator
                • Jun 2004
                • 18953
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #97
                Ah good, I did a thread with options in it if that's any help
                Cheers'en, AndyC
                1994 ABY Coupe - Projekt Alpinweiss

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                • 4WheelDrifter
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 5773
                  • Country: Devon

                  #98
                  How's this project going, Kit?

                  I wondered, have you still got the rear wiper assembly? I bet there's a couple of kilos there.
                  I'm thinking about getting rid of it, but if you want to weigh it first I don't mind.
                  SS

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7627
                    • Country: Wales

                    #99
                    Project has made good progress of late. And I'm planning an update latter this weekend. I've slightly altered my original intentions of getting the car as light as possible. I can't practically get rid of the sunroof, so as this shell is not the perfect candidate I'm going to look out for another CQ or possibly S2 3B if cheap enough, obviously without a sunroof. This I intend to get acid dipped and start from scratch with.

                    With this project I'm still going for a very light weight approach, with my main aim to improve weight distribution as much as I can. This has meant me having a slight rethink, I'll save any more info for Sunday with some photos.

                    As for the rear wiper, the whole assembly weighs about 2kg's excluding the washer bottle and fluid.

                    Oh, thanks for asking
                    Last edited by K Simmonds; 20 November 2009, 19:29.
                    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                    1994 MTM RS2.
                    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                    2000 B5 TQS.

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                    • 4WheelDrifter
                      S2Forum Zealot
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 5773
                      • Country: Devon

                      #100
                      Wow. You're really serious about this diet.
                      Starting with a bare shell would be awesome. Plenty of workspace and storage is required for that.

                      I'm just looking to get rid of a few bits and bobs I can live without, so I can keep a few that I can't, like AC, opening rear windows and a sunroof.

                      Good news on the wiper. A couple of kilos wasn't far out then.
                      SS

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                      • Error404
                        Super Moderator
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 19789
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #101
                        defo stich weld the chassis kit, mine is a different car now, feels tight as ****
                        Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                        Indigo ABY coupé
                        Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                        • K Simmonds
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 7627
                          • Country: Wales

                          #102
                          Originally posted by Error404
                          defo stich weld the chassis kit, mine is a different car now, feels tight as ****
                          Cool, I thought it would, glad to hear its worth it. My currant ones still going to pretty light as well as hopefully being better balanced. I've finished the interior now so I'll stick some photos up on Sunday.
                          1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                          1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                          1994 MTM RS2.
                          1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                          2000 B5 TQS.

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                          • Error404
                            Super Moderator
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 19789
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #103
                            cool, looking forward to seeing the pics

                            I've also got the lower chassis brace and rear strut brace pick-ups i welded in which i've not fitted the bars to yet, will do back to back test once i've had my alignments done and report back
                            Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
                            Indigo ABY coupé
                            Imola B6 S4 Avant

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                            • K Simmonds
                              S2Forum Zealot
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 7627
                              • Country: Wales

                              #104
                              Double post
                              Last edited by K Simmonds; 22 November 2009, 23:56.
                              1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                              1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                              1994 MTM RS2.
                              1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                              2000 B5 TQS.

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                              • K Simmonds
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 7627
                                • Country: Wales

                                #105
                                Originally posted by Error404
                                cool, looking forward to seeing the pics

                                I've also got the lower chassis brace and rear strut brace pick-ups i welded in which i've not fitted the bars to yet, will do back to back test once i've had my alignments done and report back
                                What parts have you used for the rear strut brace mounts? I was thinking of using the front brace mounts off a scrap S2, should be fairly straight forward.

                                Anyway here's a bit of an update, not done anything today as I've been playing a Poker tournament all day.

                                I've decided to put the rear seats back in as they only takes minuets to whip out, plus without coil-overs to balance things out the rear ride height is ridiculous, even with the battery in the boot. So I'm still going for a light weight car but sorting out the weight distribution has become the priority. I want it to be basically hospitable inside so I've striped all the backing off an old carpet and fitted it in the front only, weighs less than 2kg. The floor in the back has been painted matt black mainly cause stripping the backing off carpet takes ages and is very very boring. Rear passengers should consider themselves lucky to have seats. The sill trims cover the unpainted areas, I've left them off for now as I'm going to subject it to some more rain testing, passed preliminary tests though.
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                                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                                1994 MTM RS2.
                                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                                2000 B5 TQS.

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