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  • my2000apb
    S2Forum Maniac
    • Jul 2010
    • 637
    • Country: United States

    #991
    so let me get this straight you are running upgraded compressor and turbine wheel in an HX 40?

    any more details what kind of sFlow increase are we looking at
    BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
    DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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    • Thuppu
      S2Forum Freak
      • Sep 2010
      • 4115
      • Country: Finland

      #992
      Yes, that's correct. The comp wheel is custom manufactured for the Fin-Turbo shop. The turbine shaft is a Holset, 12 blade. This is a 700+hp turbo. How much +++ I don't know? But if 700hp have been exeed with the stock 40 super, I'll guess 750-770 wouldn't be too hard for this one... The internals are lighter than on the HX50 family so spool should be a lot better, maybe not much different to the stock 40 super. We will see...

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      • Billman
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        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #993
        Did you run the car with the old turbo so that we can see how the inlet manifold works?
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • Thuppu
          S2Forum Freak
          • Sep 2010
          • 4115
          • Country: Finland

          #994
          Yes, I will do that.

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          • my2000apb
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Jul 2010
            • 637
            • Country: United States

            #995
            Originally posted by Thuppu
            Yes, that's correct. The comp wheel is custom manufactured for the Fin-Turbo shop. The turbine shaft is a Holset, 12 blade. This is a 700+hp turbo. How much +++ I don't know? But if 700hp have been exeed with the stock 40 super, I'll guess 750-770 wouldn't be too hard for this one... The internals are lighter than on the HX50 family so spool should be a lot better, maybe not much different to the stock 40 super. We will see...


            hmmm interesting, as a Holset fan, I love it!!

            the record that I know of on ANY hx40 variant, is a DSM 2.3L Burscher Built motor making 685 AWHP @42psi on e85 but on a 0.63 hotside!!!!

            do you have inducer/exducer measurements?

            and im loving the IM, great work!!!!!
            BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
            DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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            • Thuppu
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              • Sep 2010
              • 4115
              • Country: Finland

              #996
              Ok. 685whp is quite a lot over 700 crank hp. Something like 760-780..? Not bad if it's a stock 40s? Of course there can be a lot of difference in different dynos.

              The comp wheel size is 64.5/92mm and turbine wheel 76/67mm.

              Quite a sick project you have there your self, in the sig.

              Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
              Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
              BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
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              • my2000apb
                S2Forum Maniac
                • Jul 2010
                • 637
                • Country: United States

                #997
                Originally posted by Thuppu
                Ok. 685whp is quite a lot over 700 crank hp. Something like 760-780..? Not bad if it's a stock 40s? Of course there can be a lot of difference in different dynos.

                The comp wheel size is 64.5/92mm and turbine wheel 76/67mm.

                Quite a sick project you have there your self, in the sig.


                oh yes quite a bit more, although dyno differences can be huuuuge, so big number taken with grain of salt haha

                that is a good bit bigger compressor! ill have to look into this for my round 2 upgrades

                thanks, its been a crazy undertaking for a guy in a garage. gotta make about everything as the motor is rotated vs its original mounting, and then shoved rearward and lower


                eagerly awaiting the results
                BEAST '90 CQ 24v VRT / O1E / v8 rear, HOLSET SUPER 40 http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=193#p37887
                DD '86 4kq BLAZE, swapping aba/16vT and O1E http://www.theprojectpad.com/viewtop...1&t=201#p38264

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                • Thuppu
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                  • Sep 2010
                  • 4115
                  • Country: Finland

                  #998
                  A different store sells a 66mm billet comp wheel for the HX40. Don't know the exducer size though... wanted the smaller size as it can effect spool if too big.


                  The IM throttlebody piping is finished. ISV, IAT-sensor and throttle cable bracket fitted.


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                  • Wrath
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                    • Jan 2011
                    • 779
                    • Country: Sweden

                    #999
                    Really nice Thuppu ! Look forward to see how it the new inlet manifold will work...
                    1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                    2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                    2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                    2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                    • Thuppu
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 4115
                      • Country: Finland

                      #1000
                      If we get only max -50hp drop with this, then you can say it was a good mod.

                      Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                      Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                      BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
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                      • quattro-nick
                        S2Forum Extremist
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 1746
                        • Country: Belgium

                        #1001
                        nice workmanship thuppu!
                        keep up the good work
                        audi coupe quattro b2 2.2 20vt project (573hp-626nm)
                        TWINCHARGED power,zero lag
                        AEM W/M injection

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                        • Wrath
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                          • Jan 2011
                          • 779
                          • Country: Sweden

                          #1002
                          When is your dyno test going to be at?
                          1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                          2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                          2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                          2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                          • Thuppu
                            S2Forum Freak
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 4115
                            • Country: Finland

                            #1003
                            I havn't think about to test it again. It shure would be interesting to see if there is any difference with this IM compared to the stock one... dyno cost 60e... If it flows better, then there could be issues with going to lean at the top end..?

                            Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                            Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                            BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
                            BMW 740iA e38 - Project

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                            • Wrath
                              S2Forum Maniac
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 779
                              • Country: Sweden

                              #1004
                              Allright, of course that´s a problem if you don´t have Dmitri present...
                              1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                              2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                              2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                              2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                              • Thuppu
                                S2Forum Freak
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 4115
                                • Country: Finland

                                #1005
                                Today I recived a Audi Original Teile part. Looks like it's orginal stock from the day my UrS was still young.


                                Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                                Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                                BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
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