UrS4 2.2T Avant project

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  • Thuppu
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    • Sep 2010
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    #136
    Well, I don't love lag, but I think early spool is overrated. On track you can easily hold the rpm's over 5000 for most of the time... I have a other "turbo" car which is not so laggy.


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    • A80Avant
      S2Forum Obsessed
      • Sep 2005
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      #137
      For track, it will work like a treat!

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      • Thuppu
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        • Sep 2010
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        #138
        Most of the time it will be used like a everyday driver on street but who cares.

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        • 4WheelDrifter
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          • Oct 2004
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          #139
          Originally posted by Thuppu
          Well, I don't love lag, but I think early spool is overrated. On track you can easily hold the rpm's over 5000 for most of the time... I have a other "turbo" car which is not so laggy.

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          • Thuppu
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            • Sep 2010
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            #140
            Today I started the turbo swap... Have to wonder how easy it was to fit. The DP fitting was almost plug and play, had to change the flange and shorten the V-band adapter about 7mm and weld it back together. No changes to the DP. Tomorrow I have to get new oil feed lines made and have to mod the kompressor pressure side fitting. Have also to find a adapter to plug the waterlines.










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            • Rocco
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              • Aug 2007
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              #141
              wich kind of flange it has? K26? T3?

              this is tiny ,good for 650Hp?
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              • rs200
                S2Forum Extremist
                • May 2009
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                #142
                OMG... that will be EVIL car..

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                • Thuppu
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                  • Sep 2010
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                  #143
                  Originally posted by Rocco
                  wich kind of flange it has? K26? T3?

                  this is tiny ,good for 650Hp?
                  Yeah, it's a tiny little thing, at least compared to this. Well. it's only a 60/65...

                  It has a T3 flange, and the turbo itself is good for 650hp yes.

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                  • quattro84
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                    • Mar 2006
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                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #144
                    60/85 7 blade compressor right? Could push a bit more out of that compressor-wise... I am eagerly awaiting the final outcome in terms of performance...

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                    • Thuppu
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      #145
                      Originally posted by quattro84
                      60/85 7 blade compressor right? Could push a bit more out of that compressor-wise... I am eagerly awaiting the final outcome in terms of performance...
                      Yes, thats right. Known that 670hp has been dynoed with this turbo from a 2.2 20vt. Hope my stock CR won't be a limiter. A water/methanol injector would maybe help a bit... If we had E85 here I would use that, but it's 100km to the nearest gas station that sells it.

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                      • quattro84
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                        • Mar 2006
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                        #146
                        I get your point, i've got that problem here.
                        Since there is just a single business (owned by Kadhaffi ) selling E85, and the left wing politicians aren't that enthousiastic about it anymore as well makes me wonder about altering the new build to suit alcohol based fuels.

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                        • prj
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                          • Mar 2010
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                          • Country: Estonia

                          #147
                          Will be definitely interesting mapping this...
                          But on stock head and CR without octane boosting you can't really run more than 30 psi flat on this turbo.
                          Just doesn't happen. And that is maybe 520hp or so.

                          With meth I am hoping to reach about 580-590.
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                          • rst
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                            • May 2006
                            • 102
                            • Country: Estonia

                            #148


                            Car is Audi S4 2.2T comp ~8.0. Fuel E80, boost 2.2-2.3bar. Hx40Super 14# and the usually stuff (tubular manifold, big intercooler, etc.)
                            The power figures are from the wheels. In real life the turbo wakes up about 500 rpms sooner, in dyno there is bad ventilation.

                            With just one 044 pump and 98 RON i made 330kW from wheels. Then the pump was the weakest point.

                            Some of my friends have taken with the same turbo 447kW from 1.8T r4 (E85 and 3+bar boost) and 437kW from 2.5T r5 (tall block stroker, comp ~9.5 and meth injection, 2.8 bar boost) from wheels.

                            It is a good turbo and it likes boost over 2 bar very much.
                            Last edited by rst; 26 August 2011, 08:38.
                            Audi UrS4 609hp/846Nm @ wheels
                            10.911@210, 1km 268km/h, 1mile 295km/h
                            FATS 2,30 sec

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                            • prj
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                              • Mar 2010
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                              • Country: Estonia

                              #149
                              rst is master lurker
                              Did you try relaying the fuel pump?

                              We got 480whp on a GT35R with Bosch 044, no fuel issues at all...
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                              • rst
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                                • May 2006
                                • 102
                                • Country: Estonia

                                #150
                                I wanted more power, so the 330kW from wheels was not enough for me.
                                It was easier to this:

                                If two is not enogh then i'll just add the third one.

                                But enogh of my car.
                                Let's hope to see some serious power figures from this car.
                                Audi UrS4 609hp/846Nm @ wheels
                                10.911@210, 1km 268km/h, 1mile 295km/h
                                FATS 2,30 sec

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