My S2 coupe bit of a rebuild and repair thread.

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  • B5NUT
    S2Forum Extremist
    • Sep 2021
    • 1071
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #316
    Got some of the fuel pipe parts over the weekend. As recommended I went for the Cupro-Nickel pipe, also already had some 8mm id fuel pipe from rebuilding the A4.
    1-fuel.jpg

    As I'm still waiting on further tools & fittings for the fuel pipe it's on with the brake pipes

    The pipes were in overall OK condition but as you can see from later images they were not in the best of condition.

    For the brake pipe I'm using the same stuff as VAG uses at the factory, was given 4 roles from the same VW garage that got me the bolts.
    3-brake.jpg
    With the pipe straightened out I put the flares on using a vice mount tool as I found the hand held ones a little hit or miss
    2-brake.jpg
    Once the end's were on it was time to bend them into shape using a cheap pipe bender, but it does the job very well.
    4-pipe.jpg

    Pipes may need a little fettling when fitted to the car, but seeing as this is what I had to work with in respect to a template I think they have come out OK. Looks like they have been removed before and been kicked around the workshop
    5-pipe.jpg
    Last edited by B5NUT; 6 February 2022, 16:44.

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    • Laaf
      S2Forum Addict
      • Oct 2010
      • 275
      • Country: Finland

      #317
      What's the part number on the break line piping?

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      • B5NUT
        S2Forum Extremist
        • Sep 2021
        • 1071
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #318
        Anyone know if it's possible to replicate this if I buy a hydraulic crimping tool or am I best just using double ear hose clips?
        1-connectors.jpg
        Last edited by B5NUT; 6 February 2022, 19:49.

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        • B5NUT
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2021
          • 1071
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #319
          Originally posted by Laaf
          What's the part number on the break line piping?
          Part number is 111 611 998 it's about £13 for a 4.7 meter length

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          • B5NUT
            S2Forum Extremist
            • Sep 2021
            • 1071
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #320
            Tool & connectors arrived today
            1-parts.jpg

            Been told that I may face issues with the stainless steel compression fitting. Never heard of PANAM fittings before but they look good quality, and appear to have 2 olives that will clamp to the pipe. Anyone used these before?

            2-pipe.jpg
            3-pipe.jpg
            Also still having trouble getting any information on these clamps, guess I'm going to be stuck using double ear hose clips.
            1-connectors.jpg

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            • Tractor Dave
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Dec 2017
              • 5992
              • Country: Wales

              #321
              Ooooh! Nice pipe straightening tool.
              I just used my legs
              Nothelle S2 Avant
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              • steve briance
                S2Forum Extremist
                • Aug 2014
                • 1455
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #322
                Re your question on crimping the flexi (fuel?) hose, why don't you visit somewhere like Pirtek or similar and get them to do it. If you spend the time sourcing the banjo unions from somewhere like Merlin motorsport or Demon Tweeks then all you need from Pirtek is some suitable hose and 2mins crimping time.

                Im all for buying tools but ive never needed a hydraulic crimp and can't think i ever will when i don't find myself making hoses every week.

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                • B5NUT
                  S2Forum Extremist
                  • Sep 2021
                  • 1071
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #323
                  What I'm not getting about the fuel lines is the pipe going from the tank to the filter. If this is under 6 bar of pressure these joints appear to be very poor! Or does pipe look to be some after market job? As it's got the screw fit end at the tank and cannot believe the garage that made a bodged job of the pipework had anything to do with this pipe.
                  1-joint.jpg
                  2-Joint.jpg

                  So while I'm still thinking about the fuel pipes and how to make them, I got on with fitting the new brake pipes I had made, as it finally stopped raining and it's nice and dry.

                  Offside pipe fitted without much issue
                  3-brakes.jpg

                  Nearside pipe was a complete sod and had to remake it 3 times before I was happy with the fitment and wanted to make sure that it was not touching/rubbing against the chassis
                  5-pipes.jpg

                  For the most I just cleaned and reused the clips but some where damaged and replaced. I also just cleaned up the old distributor as it was still in very good condition
                  6-brakes.jpg

                  Pipe to the front of the car is a little wavy, but that's the best my pipe straightener will do
                  4-brakes.jpg

                  Then replaced the original connecter that Audi used and fitted a female to female union.
                  7-pipes.jpg

                  So today I will be hand sanding (going to give the grinder a miss on this one) the filler neck and a quick spray with epoxy to get rid of this rust, before it's refitted. Then I can start on some of the fuel pipe runs. I've got a funny feeling I should have purchased 2 roll's of pipe, as I'm sure I'll muck one of the lengths up.
                  filler neck.jpg
                  Last edited by B5NUT; 10 February 2022, 19:33.

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                  • Tractor Dave
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 5992
                    • Country: Wales

                    #324
                    Yes, that is the oe pipe and yes, you will need two rolls if doing all three lines front to back
                    Nothelle S2 Avant
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                    Silver Rs2 Project gone
                    Ocianic Ur project gone
                    S2 Coupe project gone
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                    • B5NUT
                      S2Forum Extremist
                      • Sep 2021
                      • 1071
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #325
                      Found more rust on the tank around the connectors so that also had to be stripped back.
                      1-rust.jpg
                      2-rust.jpg

                      3-paint.jpg4-paint.jpg

                      With the rust all sorted on the tank I was going to fit it into the car today but found yet more rust! All the area's painted in light green epoxy had either paint rubbed away or rust was found.
                      5-paint.jpg

                      Main area was the near side corner, it was mainly surface rust and bubbling paint. It's not a nice finish but it's not going to be seen, and it's now well protected. At some point I will look to spray the entire boot area, and get a far better finish.
                      7-rust.jpg
                      6-paint.jpg


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                      • Tractor Dave
                        S2Forum Zealot
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 5992
                        • Country: Wales

                        #326
                        Now is the time to relay your fuel pump! It's well worth doing whilst you have access.
                        Nothelle S2 Avant
                        Black Ur project
                        Silver Rs2 Project gone
                        Ocianic Ur project gone
                        S2 Coupe project gone
                        Urs6 plus project gone

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                        • B5NUT
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 1071
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #327
                          Originally posted by Tractor Dave
                          Now is the time to relay your fuel pump! It's well worth doing whilst you have access.
                          Never heard of that mod before

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                          • Tractor Dave
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 5992
                            • Country: Wales

                            #328
                            Originally posted by B5NUT

                            Never heard of that mod before
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                            The original feed wire is long and thin.
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                            • B5NUT
                              S2Forum Extremist
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 1071
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #329
                              Are you doing this mod to your S2?

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                              • Jaswan
                                S2Forum Maniac
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 771
                                • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                                #330
                                Relaying the pump is more for safety and reliability. The OE wiring gets hot and then fails.

                                For the banjo on the fuel line you could get the fittings and make a short flexible piece. Have a look at torques fittings on eBay.

                                Jase.

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