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  • Billman
    S2Forum Freak
    • Nov 2004
    • 4129

    #151
    Very nice, how much??? ;-)

    Peter, what rod length are you using?
    Go Holset or Go RS4

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    • quattro84
      S2Forum Maniac
      • Mar 2006
      • 947
      • Country: Netherlands

      #152
      Where did you buy that Super 40?
      Is the 35/40 for sale as a hybrid or did you make that combo yourself?
      Your hotside seems to be a #16 one, the Super40 is #14 IIRC.

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      • Billman
        S2Forum Freak
        • Nov 2004
        • 4129

        #153
        Hi, i bought it as is but it is not sold like this from Holset. Super 40 is called actually the HX40 Turbo with a 7 Blade 60/85 compressor impeller despite the turbine housing dimensions.

        The exhaust housing i am going to use is a 16 either on the 35/40 hybrid and the HX40 (full 40).
        Go Holset or Go RS4

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        • pnanassy
          S2Forum Addict
          • Dec 2004
          • 287
          • Country: Hungary

          #154
          its still in pieces.159mm.

          Peter Nanassy

          Custom Engine Management,and Electronic Fuel Injection solutions supplier , contact me for details.

          http://www.carstyling.hu/car_shower.php?id=19845
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYOVA_285Rs

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          • quattro84
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Mar 2006
            • 947
            • Country: Netherlands

            #155
            Originally posted by Billman
            Hi, i bought it as is but it is not sold like this from Holset. Super 40 is called actually the HX40 Turbo with a 7 Blade 60/85 compressor impeller despite the turbine housing dimensions.

            The exhaust housing i am going to use is a 16 either on the 35/40 hybrid and the HX40 (full 40).
            I've found some of your posts on the DSM forum
            Did you buy the parts directly from Holset?
            I'm in need of the Super 40 Billet impeller 60/86 and the matching compressor cover.
            I want to use a #14 hotside instead of a #16.

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            • A80Avant
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Sep 2005
              • 10873
              • Country: Greece

              #156
              i wrote to bullseye for this and they need the part number of the compressor impeller to answer me amount the billet wheel.

              i have a cast wheel, and other than the billet being a bit lighter, what other + do you get with the billet wheel?

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              • Billman
                S2Forum Freak
                • Nov 2004
                • 4129

                #157
                nothing more really
                there is a good article on the garrett page about billet Vs cast.

                I read the dsm forum from time to time. I found the turbo in ebay.
                Go Holset or Go RS4

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                • AustenW
                  S2Forum Tinkerer
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 8
                  • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                  #158
                  Nice project

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                  • quattro84
                    S2Forum Maniac
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 947
                    • Country: Netherlands

                    #159
                    Material is more homogenic & dense, so walls can be engineered much thinner. That's billet impellers are much lighter, so lower inertia gives some earlier spoolup.
                    Downside is geometric shape. Castings can be more complex, although this is going to be changing in the near future.

                    HighTechTurbo delivers some hopups for a HX40 hybrid: http://www.htturbo.com/cu.htm
                    For my HX52 there is a newer generation wheel available coming from Scania trucks. Haven't sourced it yet.

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                    • Billman
                      S2Forum Freak
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 4129

                      #160
                      Go Holset or Go RS4

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                      • Billman
                        S2Forum Freak
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 4129

                        #161
                        @pnanassy

                        what specs do your pistons have? Do you have the order paper?
                        Go Holset or Go RS4

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                        • Billman
                          S2Forum Freak
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 4129

                          #162
                          My problem is here:

                          The oem piston has an oil squirt notch in the skirt, do you need this?* We may not be able to position*the heigth correctly due to the stroke change.
                          The OEM pistin has offset pin bores, we do not use offset pin bores on this type of piston is that ok?

                          What did the rest of the stroker do? Do you prep the oil squirt noch or not?
                          What is the offset pin bores?
                          Go Holset or Go RS4

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                          • Flat on my back
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 2449
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #163
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                            Billman,

                            My custom pistons are shorter so the oil squiter notch is not needed, they have also been supplied with centered wrist pins.

                            OEM pistons look like they are 2mm over to the exhaust side on the pins.

                            Will have to look up the theory on this.
                            Attached Files
                            Carlos.

                            On the look out for less bits for my s2 saloon project. Now supporting myself by shooting for my food. www.airgunforum.co.uk

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                            • Billman
                              S2Forum Freak
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 4129

                              #164
                              ok, that means i dont need an oil noch because the pistons are going to be far away from the oil squirters and i can place the piston pin on the center and not offset as in the original application.
                              Go Holset or Go RS4

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                              • Tommy200rs
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 285

                                #165
                                Originally posted by quattro84
                                Where did you buy that Super 40?
                                Is the 35/40 for sale as a hybrid or did you make that combo yourself?
                                Your hotside seems to be a #16 one, the Super40 is #14 IIRC.
                                Hello Billman, here some other results in two different environments with that turbo to help you decide and adjust:

                                In Saab front rubber burner and the turbo specs:

                                page: 9

                                And Audi 20v turbo with same 60mm/65mm turbo:
                                but the Exhaust #16 11,2 CATCAMS nockenwellen about:
                                270NM/3000, 370/3500, 460/4000, 640/4500, 675/5000, 689/5500, 670/6000 and then some more adjustments needed and about 1800RPM to go.... Boost setting is max 2.3bar Above that boost the backpressure gets too high / AR too small. Though the #16 seems to be quite nice.
                                Saab in above link ref. about:
                                185NM/3000, 240/3500, 300/4000 etc.....
                                - difference is #18 exhaust and otherwise same turbo
                                - Saab is tired too long time with #18
                                Last edited by Tommy200rs; 14 December 2009, 18:50.

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