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  • Sonic
    Administrator
    • Jul 2006
    • 5514
    • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

    #376
    Originally posted by Sonic
    The final aim for the project would be to have a completely re-built engine with new rods, turbo, reverse inlet manifold, intercooler and custom map, but this isnt acheivable all in one go for £££ reasons.

    What ive done is divided the project into a potential 3 stages.

    First stage (~£3400):

    Turbo , Wagner EM, RS2 or ebay IC and XM, RS2 airbox, RS2 injectors, Bosch 044 fuel pump, Sachs clutch, 3 bar map sensor, generic map, labour

    Second stage (~£2000)

    Wagner reverse IM, IC, labour

    Third stage (~£2800)

    Engine rebuild, SCAT rods, labour, custom remap
    Just read back through this on page 1.

    I love the way i've ended up doing the whole shebang anyway at a cost FAR in excess of that predicted.

    Got to love these cars
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    • Jamo
      Retired OG Mod
      • Mar 2004
      • 21750
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #377
      Clock that compressor housing to the right place hehe
      Looking good, yeah lol at the spec and prices these cars are bad for you bigtime

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      • Ross
        S2Forum Possessed
        • Aug 2005
        • 3399
        • Country: England

        #378
        I was just looking at some pics of mine to compare that compressor housing orientation. I had no problems fitting the lines, they should fit without modification. I had to reclock the hotside very slightly to get the coolant line to fit - turbo was already on the car, that was fun! The coldside should be pointing pretty much straight downward; again once mine was in position there was no contact with the coldside & EM.

        Glad to see it coming together - new MAF and engine mounts should be up there tomorrow, along with your Finjector spacers.

        And is that some porting on the EM I see? Trying to get the edge on me?? It will be interesting to see how RS2 ex cam and reverse IM compare. I still expect to win with my mental 2.1bar midrange though... benefits of a slight compression drop
        AUDI - saving Dad's from minivans since 1994

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        • Sonic
          Administrator
          • Jul 2006
          • 5514
          • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

          #379
          Originally posted by Ross
          And is that some porting on the EM I see? Trying to get the edge on me?? It will be interesting to see how RS2 ex cam and reverse IM compare. I still expect to win with my mental 2.1bar midrange though... benefits of a slight compression drop
          I think they'll be pretty much like-for-like, i might technically be able to have the slight drop off the line, but as you say, you'd pull that back.

          Just trying to think of the differences...

          Mine - Wagner reverse IM and intercooler, big brakes to slow down

          Yours - Stock rs2 IC and IM, ported IM, re-bored with lower compression.

          Surely must be more? Yours really is sewn from the same seed, but more like the ugly avant love-child.
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          • Jamo
            Retired OG Mod
            • Mar 2004
            • 21750
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #380
            If Ross has lower compression he will be running more timing and will not be knock limited as much meaning more boost, the wagner stuff will promote lower IAT but on the road and at the power levels circa 400 bhp don't reckon it's a factor

            In terms of power unfortunately big brother will have the edge, in terms of engine response the reverse IM and higher compression should make your car more nippy low to mid transition.

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            • A80Avant
              S2Forum Obsessed
              • Sep 2005
              • 10873
              • Country: Greece

              #381
              higher compression rules!!!
              higher compression+ reverse inlet rules even more!!!

              besides, on KKK turbos you'd still be able to make 2bar and drop off, without fear of knock with the higher comprssion.

              i have read about quite a few projects running garrets and 2bar to the red line with 9:1 without knocking, and making good numbers.

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              • Jamo
                Retired OG Mod
                • Mar 2004
                • 21750
                • Country: United Kingdom

                #382
                That maybe true but for any given boost pressure the lower compression will allow more timing, if it's timing vs boost i'd take timing every time.

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                • A80Avant
                  S2Forum Obsessed
                  • Sep 2005
                  • 10873
                  • Country: Greece

                  #383
                  sure, that is the theory

                  in practice most cars i have read about, still use quite nice numbers in deg of timing with high compression and arent knock limited. maybe the differences are small in comp.ratio and therefore cannot tell the difference. however off boost higher compression is always noted... until you get used to it that is..! haha

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                  • Greg_S
                    Administrator
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 12430
                    • Country: United Kingdom

                    #384
                    Just noticed the oil return line on the turbo goes into the sump extension reservoir, was that modified for that purpose rather than going to the block?

                    Greg

                    S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                    '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                    • Jamo
                      Retired OG Mod
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 21750
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #385
                      That's standard on aircon cars Greg the aircon pump blocks the oil return hole on the block
                      Last edited by Jamo; 28 September 2011, 21:31.

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                      • Greg_S
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 12430
                        • Country: United Kingdom

                        #386
                        I never knew that, mine had an aftermarket aircon system fitted which went to the standard location so hadnt seen that before
                        Greg

                        S2Forum.com Administrator & Webmaster

                        '93 Coupe with a few tweeks

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                        • 4WheelDrifter
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 5773
                          • Country: Devon

                          #387
                          Looking great, Andy. You can't beat pictures of a shiny rebuilt I5T.

                          I like the look of the sump baffles and breather mods. That should be good for when the engine is taking a good hammering on track.
                          SS

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                          • A80Avant
                            S2Forum Obsessed
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 10873
                            • Country: Greece

                            #388
                            Update!!!!

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                            • Sonic
                              Administrator
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 5514
                              • Home: United Kingdom Current: England

                              #389
                              Not too much to report from the last week or 2, the engine is just waiting to go in, the catch-tank sump-return system is in the process of being built, and the downpipe and new exhaust needs to go in... but that's about it.

                              Oh, and the ECU is off having some upgrades to work with ev14 injectors during run-in... should all be good to go within the next few weeks for the initial start-up and run-in before the remap
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                              • KaraK
                                S2Forum Addict
                                • Feb 2006
                                • 328
                                • Country: England

                                #390
                                I dropped by the garage where the car is last night to have some work done on my snotter so had a good chance to nose around the car - engine looks even more porno in the metal than it does in the photos. Car is going to need a serious clean when it's back together though!

                                Your detailing wingman is on standby!
                                Haynes Manual:As described in Chapter 7...

                                Translation:That'll teach you not to read through before you start, now you are looking at scarey photos of the inside of a gearbox.

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