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  • andy10v
    S2Forum Zealot
    • Mar 2009
    • 5996
    • Country: Scotland

    #751
    And as far as I can see the red band Delphi injectors I got as rs2 compatible injects are 440cc at 3 bar.
    Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

    Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
    Sold ABY-stock

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    • andy10v
      S2Forum Zealot
      • Mar 2009
      • 5996
      • Country: Scotland

      #752
      Originally posted by Error404
      so you have 10% too much fuel?
      More I think, 440cc at 3 bar, they are at 4 bar as 7a fpr fitted.
      Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

      Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
      Sold ABY-stock

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      • andy10v
        S2Forum Zealot
        • Mar 2009
        • 5996
        • Country: Scotland

        #753
        440cc at 3 bar is 508cc at 4 bar
        Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

        Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
        Sold ABY-stock

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        • Error404
          Super Moderator
          • Mar 2007
          • 19789
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #754
          ah! In that case the technical approximation would be "**** loads too much"
          Panthero Coupé quattro 20vt
          Indigo ABY coupé
          Imola B6 S4 Avant

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          • gmac78
            S2Forum Maniac
            • Oct 2009
            • 928
            • Home: Scotland

            #755
            Originally posted by andy10v
            I would like to sell the turbo complete, but if I cant I will give you first refusal on the hot side.
            Ok Andy no worries, thanks.

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            • andy10v
              S2Forum Zealot
              • Mar 2009
              • 5996
              • Country: Scotland

              #756
              Fitted the 3 bar fpr, and it goes like ****, pulls 27psi ish. Only got to floor it a couple of times due to traffic and had to get back to fit new track rod ends/adjusters to my sisters car.

              So need to get proper RS2 injectors, or a live map.

              Glad its worked out though!
              Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

              Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
              Sold ABY-stock

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              • K Simmonds
                S2Forum Zealot
                • Dec 2007
                • 7627
                • Country: Wales

                #757
                Originally posted by andy10v
                RS2 injectors are

                360 cc/ min @ 3.0 bar
                405 cc/ min @ 3.8 bar
                416 cc/ min @ 4.0 bar
                That's useful to know,.

                Really glad you've sussed it out, must have been running pig rich at over 500 cc/m, it's good that you've sorted it sooner rather than latter.

                If I was you I'd get a set of RS2 injectors and be done with it, given how hard it is to get a 3B lived mapped. It could be worth asking PRJ for a copy of my software, just been out for a little a spin, forgotten how indecently fast she is after a week driving a G60.
                1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                1994 MTM RS2.
                1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                2000 B5 TQS.

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                • andy10v
                  S2Forum Zealot
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 5996
                  • Country: Scotland

                  #758
                  Yeah, 508cc v 416cc Now 440, so still 24cc over, but miles better.

                  Acceleration is now brutal!

                  So sensible hat on, I need RS2 injectors as you say. Oil change as it will be full of fuel, and a bigger oil cooler as the temps rise quickly on boost!
                  Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                  Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                  Sold ABY-stock

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                  • K Simmonds
                    S2Forum Zealot
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7627
                    • Country: Wales

                    #759
                    Originally posted by andy10v
                    Acceleration is now brutal!
                    That's more like it!

                    It'll be even better with the right injectors, my AFR's in the low 10's on WOT so that 24 cc is probably still putting you in the 9's. As you say the oil needs changing ASAP, be good to do anyway on a freshly built engine that's been stood for while to flush it out.

                    My oil temps are good with a 13 row oil cooler and now I've fitted that alloy rad the water temp seems more stable.
                    1990 B3 2.0 80 quattro.
                    1992 C4 2.8 Avant quattro
                    1994 MTM RS2.
                    1998 B5 TDI quattro Sport.
                    2000 B5 TQS.

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                    • newsh
                      S2Forum Obsessed
                      • Aug 2003
                      • 16226
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #760
                      That's a great bit of detective work Andy, well done that man

                      Do you still want the leads and coil? I've found them but not posted yet.

                      S2 Coupe 3B Project


                      Ur quattro restoration

                      S2 Avant

                      Boost is the new rock and roll!
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                      • martinws
                        S2Forum Maniac
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 917
                        • Country: Scotland

                        #761
                        Good work dude. Would be useful to get a wideband for general reference. I have been running a borrowed on for the last week while messing with the NOS and it shows the way the fueling goes on and off throttle and load.

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                        • andy10v
                          S2Forum Zealot
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 5996
                          • Country: Scotland

                          #762
                          I just ordered one, should be here on Wed.

                          How are you getting on with the nitrous?
                          Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                          Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                          Sold ABY-stock

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                          • andy10v
                            S2Forum Zealot
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5996
                            • Country: Scotland

                            #763
                            Originally posted by newsh
                            That's a great bit of detective work Andy, well done that man

                            Do you still want the leads and coil? I've found them but not posted yet.
                            Combined effort from my dad still muttering about carbs, and me

                            If you are not going to use them they will be handy spares, and I said I would buy them. No desperate hurry right now (until it develops a high boost missfire when I get the right injectors in )
                            Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                            Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                            Sold ABY-stock

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                            • newsh
                              S2Forum Obsessed
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 16226
                              • Country: United Kingdom

                              #764
                              Ok buddy, I'll get them in the post then

                              S2 Coupe 3B Project


                              Ur quattro restoration

                              S2 Avant

                              Boost is the new rock and roll!
                              sigpic

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                              • andy10v
                                S2Forum Zealot
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 5996
                                • Country: Scotland

                                #765
                                Some goodies arrived today

                                Wideband



                                Oil cooler (but no M18-1/2 adapters )



                                Going to go somewhere about here



                                Gauge stuffed into a vent as per usual bodge



                                Sensor is welded into the exhaust just after the bottom of the downpipe, instructions asked for at least 36" from turbo.

                                Changed the oil/ilter and took her for a quick spin;

                                Cruising at 30 in 3rd 14.7-15.6ish, leans out on the overun

                                High speed cruising seemed to be richer 13.X

                                WOT pegs at 10 the whole time

                                Idle is very rich.

                                RS2 injectors are on their way from a forum member in Lithuania
                                Current-2004 Impreza PPP wagon

                                Sold-92 3B coupe-RS2+, 996s, konis, rear torsen, forged rods........
                                Sold ABY-stock

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