Buying an S2 Coupe - Am I walking into a world of pain.

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  • Ian Simmonds
    S2Forum Fiend
    • Jun 2005
    • 2858
    • Country: United Kingdom

    #121
    No pipe attaches there, but my god, what is going on with that wastegate!!!!

    For reference this is what ours looks like…



    And I suspect most S2’s do. OE there wouldn’t have been a hole in the top.
    Last edited by Ian Simmonds; 14 October 2021, 12:32.
    85 WR Urquattro, 85 20vT International liveried RallyRep
    93 MTMS2 Avant

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    • B5NUT
      S2Forum Extremist
      • Sep 2021
      • 1071
      • Country: United Kingdom

      #122
      O god now what

      So I take it that nut/bolt should not be there.. bodge it a scarper....

      Anyone got a wastegate for sale
      Last edited by B5NUT; 14 October 2021, 12:33.

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      • Ian Simmonds
        S2Forum Fiend
        • Jun 2005
        • 2858
        • Country: United Kingdom

        #123
        I’d have a quick look inside first to see if there’s even a spring. There was a (horror) photo on here about a year ago of someone (apologies, can’t remember whom) who found no spring and something like a 24mm socket holding the wastegate shut.
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        • B5NUT
          S2Forum Extremist
          • Sep 2021
          • 1071
          • Country: United Kingdom

          #124
          If I take the cap off is it easy to put back together?

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          • Ian Simmonds
            S2Forum Fiend
            • Jun 2005
            • 2858
            • Country: United Kingdom

            #125
            It’s quite straight forward, just the 6 nuts. Couple of caveats. If the spring is still in there it’ll be forcing the cap up, so can ‘ping’ the last bolt off. I undo all six half way, then 5 off so you’re only managing one whilst pushing down on the cap to prevent it from going ‘boing’ and losing the nut.
            Similarly, putting an old towel or similar around it saves heartache if you do drop a nut.
            Refitting is the same really, cap on, compress spring with cap and get first bolt on, then work it down progressively from there.

            Hopefully you’ve got a spring.

            Also, have a quick S2Forum ‘search’ for wastegate. There’ll be plenty of tips and tricks or indeed interesting horror stories.
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            93 MTMS2 Avant

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            • B5NUT
              S2Forum Extremist
              • Sep 2021
              • 1071
              • Country: United Kingdom

              #126
              removed the 6 nuts and the cap is stuck fast will not come off.

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              • Bowie69
                S2Forum Fiend
                • Nov 2013
                • 2675
                • Country: England

                #127
                Undone the big one in the middle?

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                • Ian Simmonds
                  S2Forum Fiend
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 2858
                  • Country: United Kingdom

                  #128
                  Just found this…

                  https://www.s2forum.com/forum/techni...ate#post215138

                  last post suggests it’s something a ‘period’ tuner might have done.

                  I’ve not seen it before TBH, so wouldn’t suggest undoing it (the big one) in case it changes the boost setting.

                  Normally it’s just the 6 nuts that release it.
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                  • martinjs
                    S2Forum Possessed
                    • Jul 2003
                    • 3205
                    • Country: England

                    #129
                    Yeah you have been Superchipped alright

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                    • Ian Simmonds
                      S2Forum Fiend
                      • Jun 2005
                      • 2858
                      • Country: United Kingdom

                      #130
                      You probably need a Newsh or similar who may well have seen such shenanigans.
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                      93 MTMS2 Avant

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                      • martinjs
                        S2Forum Possessed
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 3205
                        • Country: England

                        #131
                        That’s what Superchips did back in the day, they unplug the wgfv and wind the wastegate spring perch right in via that bolt.

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                        • B5NUT
                          S2Forum Extremist
                          • Sep 2021
                          • 1071
                          • Country: United Kingdom

                          #132
                          It's off..

                          This is what I found. It's looks like the modification allows you to put more pressure on the spring keeping the gate shut.


                          waste1.jpg
                          waste2.jpg
                          waste3.jpg
                          waste4.jpg

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                          • Ian Simmonds
                            S2Forum Fiend
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 2858
                            • Country: United Kingdom

                            #133
                            Originally posted by martinjs
                            That’s what Superchips did back in the day, they unplug the wgfv and wind the wastegate spring perch right in via that bolt.
                            That’s a bit Neanderthal isn’t it?
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                            93 MTMS2 Avant

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                            • martinjs
                              S2Forum Possessed
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 3205
                              • Country: England

                              #134
                              Yes it’s a total bodge, I’ve not seen it for a long time as most have been ‘un-superchipped’ already

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                              • Bowie69
                                S2Forum Fiend
                                • Nov 2013
                                • 2675
                                • Country: England

                                #135
                                It was the 90s, people outside of OEMs hadn't really worked out what EFI was by this point, so preferred to muck about with the mechanicals.

                                That and standalone EFI for road cars was completely in its infancy, and was horrid.

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