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  • hunker7
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    • Mar 2014
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    #136
    Originally posted by Majorcina
    Nice to hear that janis!


    Now need to clean it all up, tape the wiring etc.
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    • Majorcina
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      • Jun 2013
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      #137
      So your 204 relay was bad?

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      • Vorsprung durch Technik
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        • Jun 2007
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        #138
        Nice one Janis!!!!!!!
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        • hunker7
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          #139
          Originally posted by Majorcina
          So your 204 relay was bad?
          Naah, they've messed the wiring from it I think, as I used one from my red S4 and didn't work either. But I won't look into it, if the jumper works fine, can't see any bare wires so should be safe.

          What I will do though is probably remove the blue/white wire from pin 27 and put green/black back in.
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          • hunker7
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            #140
            Originally posted by Vorsprung durch Technik
            Nice one Janis!!!!!!!
            Thanks
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            • newsh
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              • Aug 2003
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              #141
              I dont get it, is that the same 204 or a different one? Cos if it's the same then it should be the same as just connecting the green and blue wires together, unless there's anther wire that gets powered up when the relay is made.

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              • hunker7
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                #142
                Same relay. So I did the same thing as the other one and it works fine
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                • newsh
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                  • Aug 2003
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                  #143
                  So the jumper fixes the ECU power AND the starter power problem?

                  And your other car has the same kind og jumper in the same position??

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                  • hunker7
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                    #144
                    Oh no, this starter problem relay was under the steering wheel. But relay itself was the same as one for the ECU
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                    • hunker7
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                      #145
                      According to Dave, in that position there is either jumper, 204 relay or starter relay of some sort which is there only for Automatic cars.
                      '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
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                      • UrS4boy
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                        • Feb 2006
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                        #146
                        The role of the J219 relay in the UrS starter interlock system

                        Originally posted by hunker7
                        According to Dave, in that position there is either jumper, 204 relay or starter relay of some sort which is there only for Automatic cars.
                        I did say that (re: Automatics) once but I need to revise that. Subsequently I went into more depth and detail and discovered that the Manual UrSs also may have the 204 relay in position 4 on the main C4 UrS under dash relay panel and that, further more, it is a starter interlock normally controlled by the Central Locking Module.

                        More info here:
                        The role of the J219 (a 204) relay in the starter interlock system (and how to defeat it):

                        The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


                        Congrats on getting it going. I don't under stand the blue-black wire going into Pin 27 or the black/green wire diversion to a connector in the kick panel.

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                        • newsh
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                          #147
                          Originally posted by hunker7
                          Oh no, this starter problem relay was under the steering wheel. But relay itself was the same as one for the ECU
                          Ok cool, it wasn't obvious from what you'd said

                          So it looks like you've found all the problem wiring and bypassed it



                          Just tidying up to do now then.

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                          • UrS4boy
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                            • Feb 2006
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                            #148
                            Originally posted by hunker7
                            Oh no, this starter problem relay was under the steering wheel. But relay itself was the same as one for the ECU
                            As far as I know, there is no relay involved with powering the ECU at Pin 27. Just the ignition switch and the fuse at S64/115. At least from the factory. With an aftermarket immobilizer, all bets are off.

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                            • hunker7
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                              #149
                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              I did say that (re: Automatics) once but I need to revise that. Subsequently I went into more depth and detail and discovered that the Manual UrSs also may have the 204 relay in position 4 on the main C4 UrS under dash relay panel and that, further more, it is a starter interlock normally controlled by the Central Locking Module.

                              More info here:
                              The role of the J219 (a 204) relay in the starter interlock system (and how to defeat it):

                              The Audi Enthusiast website. Forums for all Audis including A4, S4, A5, S5, A6, S6, allroad, A8, S8, TT, R8, Q5, Q7, 4000, 100, 200, v6, v8, vintage, local forums


                              Congrats on getting it going. I don't under stand the blue-black wire going into Pin 27 or the black/green wire diversion to a connector in the kick panel.
                              Would you know if it's possible to buy the original metal jump-er?

                              Well, they've replaced the green/black wire with blue one, then diverted the green/black to additional relay together with the blue/black one.


                              Originally posted by UrS4boy
                              As far as I know, there is no relay involved with powering the ECU at Pin 27. Just the ignition switch and the fuse at S64/115. At least from the factory. With an aftermarket immobilizer, all bets are off.

                              It's all the immoboliser mate, none of it is factory I reckon, they just used "Audi" relays and that's it. Now it's all done, and everything runs as it should.


                              Originally posted by newsh
                              Ok cool, it wasn't obvious from what you'd said

                              So it looks like you've found all the problem wiring and bypassed it



                              Just tidying up to do now then.
                              All seems to run fine Tidying is under way, and passenger's side is almost finished. If weather is good, will finish off tomorrow Then brakes needs overhaulin'
                              '93 Audi 100 Avant - R.I.P
                              '92 Audi UrS4 Avant - SOLD
                              '93 Audi UrS4 Avant
                              '15 Audi A7 quattro 3.0 TDI

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                              • quattrostyle
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                                • Oct 2006
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                                #150
                                Good news Janis, well done

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