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  • prj
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    • Mar 2010
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    #391
    Originally posted by Melber
    Great plan - good luck to you!
    I have a similar situation, S6 saloon, GTX35R and motronic ...
    see what happens :-)
    Except you already have big MAF and 440 hp on dyno with GT3071R/K26, and still not happy



    Originally posted by Thuppu
    A question about the fuel pressure thingy... Whitch would be better to use if your injectors is big enough, 3bar or 4bar pressure? At 3bar the fuelpump has more flow, at 2bar boost it need to pump 5bar vs. 6bar at 4bar fuel pressure...
    Makes almost no difference, because the amount of fuel you will be using will be the same.
    It would only be an issue if your injectors were not big enough with 3 bar, but would be big enough with 4 bar.
    If you are not using 100% injector with either setup, then do whatever you want.
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    • Thuppu
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      • Sep 2010
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      #392
      Ok, thanks. Would be safer to use the injectors at 4bar/1000cc.


      Some practicing with my tig welder. It's so nice and peacefull to weld with the tig compared to mig with all sparks flying alround.








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      • europeanme
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        • Oct 2005
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        #393
        Originally posted by Thuppu
        A question about the fuel pressure thingy...
        technical term Thomas?!?!...

        I must say I'm not sure about that fuel rail....:mischeif:

        looking good matey....

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        • prj
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          • Mar 2010
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          #394
          If you have 1000cc injectors, then use 3 bar for better idling capability.
          Although EV14 probably will idle fine at 4 bar as well, but at this size injector sizing does start to matter.

          Those injectors in the picture look like EV1's to me though.
          Are those just a test fit, or are you going to be using EV1's?

          If so, DEFINITELY 3 bar fuel pressure, they'll be all over the place.
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          • Thuppu
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            • Sep 2010
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            #395
            Originally posted by europeanme
            technical term Thomas?!?!...

            I must say I'm not sure about that fuel rail....:mischeif:
            Yeah, you know my english...

            Haha, you are just jealous of my motorsport rail.

            Originally posted by europeanme
            looking good matey....
            Thanks!

            Originally posted by prj
            If you have 1000cc injectors, then use 3 bar for better idling capability.
            Although EV14 probably will idle fine at 4 bar as well, but at this size injector sizing does start to matter.

            Those injectors in the picture look like EV1's to me though.
            Are those just a test fit, or are you going to be using EV1's?

            If so, DEFINITELY 3 bar fuel pressure, they'll be all over the place.
            Noo, those in the pic are my "old" 440cc(3bar) greentop's, have been used at 4bar though. Those are soon fore sale if someone is interested, almost new, used for 6000-7000km. They are NLA nowadays. Good injectors though.

            My EV14's waiting for the map day.


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            • europeanme
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              • Oct 2005
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              #396
              Originally posted by Thuppu
              Yeah, you know my english...

              Haha, you are just jealous of my motorsport rail.

              Thanks!


              Noo, those in the pic are my "old" 440cc(3bar) greentop's, have been used at 4bar though. Those are soon fore sale if someone is interested, almost new, used for 6000-7000km. They are NLA nowadays. Good injectors though.

              My EV14's waiting for the map day.

              lovely motorsport rail....

              are you not using adaptors with your ev14's?....

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              • quattro84
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                • Mar 2006
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                #397
                Nice welds, are these done with that Ebay TIG unit?

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                • Thuppu
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                  #398
                  Originally posted by europeanme
                  are you not using adaptors with your ev14's?....
                  Yes I need to use them.

                  Originally posted by quattro84
                  Nice welds, are these done with that Ebay TIG unit?
                  Yes they are. I'm sooo waiting to get my hands on the DP- and exhaust build.

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                  • europeanme
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    #399
                    Originally posted by Thuppu
                    Yes I need to use them.
                    are you using the fiveo motorsport ones or the finjector versions?....

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                    • Thuppu
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                      • Sep 2010
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                      #400
                      I will use those in the pic, Fiveo ones. Don't see any reason why these would not be good. I remember the thread of the adapters but if the o-ring goes deep enough there should not be issues. There are also no edge on this rail you can lock the clips to.

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                      • Wrath
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                        • Jan 2011
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                        #401
                        Ebay tig weld unit? sounded cheap?
                        1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                        2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                        2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                        2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                        • Thuppu
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                          • Sep 2010
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                          #402
                          You heard right.

                          Chinese AC/DC puls tig/plasma cutter from ebay.co.uk. 580 euros shipped. Link!

                          Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
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                          • Wrath
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                            #403
                            my god, 5000 SEK for a tig welder that works :O hmm time to buy and learn how to tig
                            1995 Audi S6 - AAN (~350hp)
                            2008 BMW 530xd (235hp)
                            2008 Hyundai i30 - 1.6 CRDI (89hp)
                            2011 KTM 990 SMR - custom tuned (120whp)

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                            • Thuppu
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                              • Sep 2010
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                              #404
                              Originally posted by Wrath
                              my god, 5000 SEK for a tig welder that works :O
                              Haha, if you are lucky. First what I did, was opening it and tighten the big power leads. All was loos, and one nut had dropped to the bottom of the "chassis". But it seems to work fine... for now.

                              Audi UrS4 Avant 2.5 20vt - twincharged - Project
                              Audi 80q B4 Sedan 2.2 20vt - Daily user
                              BMW 320d Touring e91 M-Sport - Daily user
                              BMW 740iA e38 - Project

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                              • quattro84
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                                • Mar 2006
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                                #405
                                Bit of OT, but:
                                - Did you try the plasmacutter yet?
                                - Does it use compressed air line as input (don't think it has an internal one)?
                                - Do you have to make an arc on your product to start it?
                                - How about the torch & hose package quality?
                                - Does it use DIN/ISO connectors so you can swap it for a 'decent' one in case it fails?

                                I'm still in doubt about buying a chinese clone, but damn, this is like 1/12th the price of a A-class AC/DC TIG + Plasma cutter... Too bad it isn't watercooled

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